EVE General Discussion

This. It seems the totally wrong people are paying the price for CCPs runins with the community.

I see above that a couple people posted this already.
Thank you.

In fact, blame the CEO, not the customers.

shameshame needs the same intensity of reality check as Hilmar did a year ago.

I said what I wanted to in the "unofficial" thread. However, I feel like I should say the following.

Hilmar's job, as CEO of CCP, is to make the company money. To do so, he should have been following the core tenets of basic entrepreneurship:

1.) Never stray from your source material.
2.) Never grow beyond your means.
3.) Create a product and maintain it until you can branch off.
4.) Keep your customers happy.

Do all of this, and nine-times-out-of-ten you will have a solid business. I've pointed to Blizzard many times in the past, and the reason for this is simple: they provide a quality set of products (I refuse to group World of Warcraft and Starcraft as the same "product", even though I play both) and continue to support them.

EVE Online is a niche game. It is not going to be as mainstream as World of Warcraft or Rift, because those games cater to people who simply want to come home, do a dungeon, and otherwise not spend too much time worrying about stuff they may lose. EVE is purely about destruction. We lose ships and modules, which means we lose money. Whether we destroy other ships before this happens is inconsequential - you are still risking your own in-game currency. And it's not like you can toggle a flag to prevent. In one way or another, you'll be engaged and the chance of losing every ship you have is real.

I remember not too long ago CCP releasing a "promotional" video titled "The Butterfly Effect". The gist was simple: every action a person takes in EVE Online has a real and somewhat-lasting impact on the game for others. The same can be said for any company, not just CCP: the actions taken by a person has an impact on everyone else. We are seeing that here.

Hilmar has no reason to fear for his job. Until such time as there is some cataclysmic incident where money is lost at a rate the company can not make back in a foreseeable future, everyone under him is expendable. That is the problem.

The entire source for the original post was an attempt by CCP to try to guilt trip us. They wanted us to look at it and go, "Wow, we caused this to happen". Undoubtedly, many CCP "fanbois" (or alternatively, CCP employees masquerading as "players") will post (or have, I haven't read through the entire thread yet) saying we are wrong, and because we were selfish people lost their jobs.

**** that.

The reason these people lost their jobs is because of Hilmar. I know that a reduction of a workforce by 20%, no matter how large a company, is something that is not decided upon lightly, and is not something a company is willing to do unless it is absolutely required to save money. Hilmar's greed, Hilmar's selfishness cost these people their jobs.

The developers for these games should have been in control. Because they weren't, people are losing their jobs. CCP can say they're "helping" to find them alternative employment, but I highly doubt that's happening. Where would these people go? The competition? Would you give your competitors employees you were terminating?

Hilmar says he's sorry and humbled because of recent events. He refused to talk to us when Monoclegate happened. The PR department threw CCP Pann to the hungry masses of players as the sacrificial lamb, and since she didn't want to be that lamb, she did what any good person does and threw the idiots in charge under the bus. "Mutually Assured Destruction" wasn't just the name of the game in the Cold War. What's to bet that had things turned out worse, CCP Pann would have been terminated way back when?

What's to say she isn't one of the people being terminated right now?

Hilmar et al. made their bed, and now they're being forced to sleep in it. And to try to deflect attention away from their idiocy, they're trying to tell us we're bad people for wanting the game we pay to play looked at more than once in a blue moon.

Taking bets now that at the next quarterly fiscal report, when CCP's finances are down, Hilmar blames the players for not meeting quota.

Yet you wont hold them online. Atleast not long enough for WoD.

I also want them to keep their jobs. Yet I need more than WoD to convince me having a third account or more is worth it. And for that to happen I need to know that they are going to fix these issues they have ignored. And that they are not going to pull something crazy to change the very nature of nullsec such as removing local or another mass change in risk vs reward.

I will admit that TiDi has me tempted. TiDi is going to mean more ships lost. And better battles. This will improve the markets for industry significantly and maybe even allow basic drops to be profitable again. That and other ideas mentioned so far have the potential to make eve something to look forward to logging into again.

So CCP I would happily accept 500M plex prices if I see you are also willing to open further up to the community and do the changes needed that might not be the new shiny thing. Fix AFK cloaking so I am not someone's free hotdrop lunch. Fix the issues with POS and Corp operations and I will buy those 3+ plex with a smile on my face and drool leaking out over the next CTA.

This is disgusting. CCP management is responsible for the events of the last few months. Now you are "stretched too thin" so you are firing people? I am glad I don't work for CCP.

This kinda sucks and I feel for all CCP employees affected by this decision. I thank you for all you've done for EVE and us in the community, you will be missed!

Best regards,
Chribba

So i guess that the kind of trust and respect we had in CCP Fallout as a community manager ("assistant" my ass.. what sort of "community manager" was CCP Pann if i never ever seen one post from her if not for damage control during the monoclegate. Fallout was the one that worked with us) was non essential for someone on that role?

Whew...

Lot of alt posting going on in the last few pages. By alt, I mean the only posts in their history are in this thread.

Odd thing. Anyone have a reason for this ?

Mr Epeen

Apparently having a community that actually trusts you, unlike most of your co-workers, doesn't mean anything for CCP.