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Speculate on possible sobotage of high sec industry.
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Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
#21 - 2012-11-03 01:57:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Beekeeper Bob
What's "Sobotage" ? Cool

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Elliot Vodka
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#22 - 2012-11-03 02:07:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Elliot Vodka
I havent played this game long, but for what knowledge ive learved for fact is always holds true...

Everyone, and everything can be and is a target. And whats a target, is profit in some shape form or fashion.

If you have the right eyes there is always a type of profit in eve.

Would you like to destroy it from the inside, or take something from it?

So many things you can accomplish... if given the time and preparation

Why is it that people think this game is for everyone?A better question would be "Why do some people think this game is only for them?"
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#23 - 2012-11-03 02:16:43 UTC
Natsett Amuinn wrote:
Do you think that it will be monetarilly possible to sabotage high sec industry, come retribution?

If so, do you think it will be attempted?

If it would be attempted, do you think that there could be a financial gain from it?



If by industry you mean mining, then yes.

If by industry you mean refining, then no.

Also no for ship building, manufacturing and research.

In my opinion.

Mr Epeen Cool
Treo 'Ssard
Hangar 55
#24 - 2012-11-03 02:41:38 UTC
I think, with deep enough pockets, it would be possible.

I think if someone or some entity does have said deep pockets, along with the motivation to dig into them, then yes it will be attempted. This motivation need not be financial.

Whether or not they do gain financially from it is irrelevant to me; if it does happen, then, as a small-time miner / manufacturer, it will be entertainment the likes of which I've never seen in a game... Big smile
Kaylyis
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2012-11-03 02:50:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Kaylyis
Disrupting mining and freight on a large scale is pretty much the only avenue. Most highsec Indys who are solely Indy stay in-station. You are unlikely to catch a manufacturer with his loot flapping in the wind. But the miners aren't really the competition for nullsec manufacturers. They're what nullsec needs to have so the local supplies are used.

Honestly highsec manufacturing lanes are so choked with build orders and backlog that its rare you don't have a queue. That level of manufacture is a.problem for null because hisec manufacture almost literally never stops and few of the indy's are willing to hang a POS because of standings requirements and fuel costs.

Buying fuel diminishes the bottom line.
Mars Theran
Foreign Interloper
#26 - 2012-11-03 07:34:01 UTC
They're always sabotaging Highsec industry; why should retribution be any different? Blink
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Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#27 - 2012-11-03 12:22:31 UTC
Lolar55 wrote:
Grow some brains people hes talking about placing bounties on industrialists thus disrupting suplies of item X.Personally I have a long long list of builders of certain modules, and If i dig deeper I can find how much time it takes them to produce x and when are they likely to haul it to jita.You can guess what can happen next if Retribution screws with all carebears.Idea



If you have so much isk to throw away for no result, please send it to me. I'm poor ;(

brb
Ocih
Space Mermaids
#28 - 2012-11-03 13:11:57 UTC
Kaylyis wrote:
Disrupting mining and freight on a large scale is pretty much the only avenue. Most highsec Indys who are solely Indy stay in-station. You are unlikely to catch a manufacturer with his loot flapping in the wind. But the miners aren't really the competition for nullsec manufacturers. They're what nullsec needs to have so the local supplies are used.

Honestly highsec manufacturing lanes are so choked with build orders and backlog that its rare you don't have a queue. That level of manufacture is a.problem for null because hisec manufacture almost literally never stops and few of the indy's are willing to hang a POS because of standings requirements and fuel costs.

Buying fuel diminishes the bottom line.


None of that really bothered me.

It was 6 months of babysitting a POS, buying material over the course of a year, mapping market logistics, all to get .01 ISK'ed in dead regions 2 hrs after I put an order up.

The system is designed to be centralized and is rigged to fail.
Dar Manic
Dirt Road Services
#29 - 2012-11-03 13:37:03 UTC
Name Family Name wrote:
Unless I missed some major patch notes on retribution, there still is no way to compete with highsec industry unless you want to lose money.

Possible? Yes - you just need some heavy market manipulation going alongside.


Wait, wat? I thought adapt or die was the rule in EVE. :)

Go to hi-sec and make the billions in isk some are saying is happening. It's your choice not to go to hi-sec.

I just don't understand null sec players.

**Please note: **Anytime I use the phrase PvP in a post, I'm talking about shooting/combat/killing things/blowing things up. Thank you.
Dar Manic
Dirt Road Services
#30 - 2012-11-03 13:38:17 UTC
Ocih wrote:
Kaylyis wrote:
Disrupting mining and freight on a large scale is pretty much the only avenue. Most highsec Indys who are solely Indy stay in-station. You are unlikely to catch a manufacturer with his loot flapping in the wind. But the miners aren't really the competition for nullsec manufacturers. They're what nullsec needs to have so the local supplies are used.

Honestly highsec manufacturing lanes are so choked with build orders and backlog that its rare you don't have a queue. That level of manufacture is a.problem for null because hisec manufacture almost literally never stops and few of the indy's are willing to hang a POS because of standings requirements and fuel costs.

Buying fuel diminishes the bottom line.


None of that really bothered me.

It was 6 months of babysitting a POS, buying material over the course of a year, mapping market logistics, all to get .01 ISK'ed in dead regions 2 hrs after I put an order up.

The system is designed to be centralized and is rigged to fail.


Go to hi-sec and make the billions they are making (supposedly). Adapt or die (at least that's what the hardcore players say all the time@!!)

I just don't understand null sec players.

**Please note: **Anytime I use the phrase PvP in a post, I'm talking about shooting/combat/killing things/blowing things up. Thank you.
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2012-11-03 14:19:25 UTC
Touval Lysander wrote:
Lolar55 wrote:
Grow some brains people hes talking about placing bounties on industrialists thus disrupting suplies of item X.Personally I have a long long list of builders of certain modules, and If i dig deeper I can find how much time it takes them to produce x and when are they likely to haul it to jita.You can guess what can happen next if Retribution screws with all carebears.Idea

He did? He is?

I reread - never saw the word BOUNTY used once.

What I saw was a sad Goon looking for ways to rant more about how Goons can **** highsec up.

Just sayin'.

learn to read. He said: "... come retribution"

so obviously he talked about BOUNTIES.

PS: omg. I defend goon Shocked wtf with Eve forums???

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
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