EVE General Discussion

i got an idea and yeah it might be silly:

maybe the reason most indy / Miner "carebears" hate ganking so much is because they see NO reason for even doing it.
they mine, a gang drops in and kicks their teeth in. then gets pawned by concord.

new mechanic and more in the alley CCP envisions it maybe (and I would LOVE it even though i am mostly a carebear myself)

ransoms as a game mechanic.

so, in order to be able to attack someone in highsec, you need to ransom them.
righclick target, ransom option chosen, enter amount of ransom, enter ransom message (or use standard one)

the target receives a pop saying something like "you have been ransomed"
and then the actual ransom message including the ransom amount.

amount has to be equal or higher than market average of taregt hull ors something, dunno.

the moment the ransom is issued, a timer starts. its not an aggressive behavior just yet.
if the timer ends and nothing has happened (target just didnt react because he was afk or even is a bot or something)
ganker can gank and get a timer window of x seconds to get away before concord shows up and "looks into things".

the target can of course do all kinds of stuff to react: whine, talk, discuss, curse, swear, sing, try to leave or call for help or log or even pay.

if he pays, the ganker has t chose between accept ransoming and not conduct aggerssion, or screw it and attack anyways, thuis seeting normal concord reaction in motion.

this might sound fairly complicated but it would mean, gankers are not just stupid gankers per se, but at least have to behave more like real pirates and thus give the targets some perspective on how the game shows them to HTFU. without the ganers having to explain them any game mechanics anymore.

"Pay 100m ISK or we'll kill you.

Thanks. Now pay another 100m ISK or we'll kill you.

Thanks. Now pay another 100m etc..."

I guess you're not too knowledgeable about how ransoming and ganking works.

So you're saying a ganker can ransom a Miner and if the miner refuses to pay, the ganker gets a kill right, but whenever a ganker ransoms a miner, they also get a kill right placed on themselves which is open to anyone?

You're so stupid, it's funny.

Why do you think market prices have RISEN on everything from Trade Goods to Ships to modules to Ammo?

Hulkageddon - mining in Empire dropped by 49% percent.
Burn Jita - Small effect, not much tbfh.

Now, with miners being taken out non stop, the pvp pilots then complain about insurance prices on ships, module prices etc. whose to blame? Why do we have to spend so much to PvP? Why is PvP dropping off?

Simple answer and ill lay it out for you

Before Hulkageddon - Ship and module prices were reasonable, then came hulkageddon and prices started to rise, then came high sec freighter ganks and prices continued to rise

Who is to blame

Oh wait..... Now i remember whose to blame

the very people who are trolling this thread...

go figure?

Nice insult buddy boy. Simple answer inflation, too much isk faucet not enough sinks, and speculators.

No no and no same old crap answer given by pvpers to place the blame elsewhere, always the same answers, inflation, blah blah blah

Point of fact - pvp pilots who mess around with empire, destroy eve destroy the economy and then blame anyone else but themselves. i have been pvping for as long as i can remember and i have NEVER shot a barge or ganked sum one in high sec.

stop blaming other people for your own issues that you caused as a group, it is pathetic ad childish

They don't. You made this up.

idiotic response for some one who cannot come up with an answer when proven wrong

i think i drew a somewhat detailed picture. sorry for you not getting it, must be my fault.

what i would love is people stop blaming each other and all gettign heated up but people offering solutions and ways to improve.

to bad games and especially online games ar just that. games. and vents for peoples real life struggles and shortcomings.
when people work 40 hours / week the average player probably is not interested in organizing, structuring and effective colaboration. they want mindless, stupid and funny **** to release tension and to enjoy themselves.

the whole "stay away from us" whining on one side and "you people are pathetic carebears, live with it. adapt or die"-CRAP wouldnt even exist if players would find a way to implement risk vs reward themselves, instead of blaming CCP the game needs tweaking and is broken and whatnot.

make more indy guys WANT to go to null by REWARDING them to do so. help them, instead of luring them there, ganking them and then mocking them in local and in forums.
help them to built up a workable infrastrukcture and economy where you need them. then you can leave the oh so sad carebears alone and never have to worry about them highsec dwellers anymore at all.

Apparently not. Searching the terms 'Insurance Costs' just brings up a load of recent GD threads. None of which complain about insurance costs being an issue.

The only costs I ever hear anyone complain about is clone costs and Meta 4 being too cheap because high-sec needs to be nerfed.