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Why are Corporations So Invasive???

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Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#161 - 2012-11-03 08:10:29 UTC
Oaiso wrote:
Akirei Scytale wrote:

Have you ever held a job or been in a position where you were privy to sensitive information? That's generally a lengthy legal process, in the case of a diplomat with top secret clearance, a multi-month one. And yes, they keep an eye on you.

EVE is extremely tame by comparison, and its preventing the same thing.


Continue to compare yourself to 007, nerd


Would you like a picture of the cover of my diplomatic passport?
Oaiso
#162 - 2012-11-03 08:11:10 UTC
Akirei Scytale wrote:
Oaiso wrote:
Akirei Scytale wrote:

Have you ever held a job or been in a position where you were privy to sensitive information? That's generally a lengthy legal process, in the case of a diplomat with top secret clearance, a multi-month one. And yes, they keep an eye on you.

EVE is extremely tame by comparison, and its preventing the same thing.


Continue to compare yourself to 007, nerd


Would you like a picture of the cover of my diplomatic passport?


Sure
Shepard Wong Ogeko
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#163 - 2012-11-03 08:12:15 UTC
I gladly handed over full APIs to all may characters. I got nothing to hide.

Which makes me wonder...


Why are so many people afraid to give up a full API? You guys trying to keep secrets in your evemails? Are you a bunch of perverts or spies or perverted spies?
Abdiel Kavash
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#164 - 2012-11-03 08:12:58 UTC
Moe Doobie wrote:
I don't like it. I get enough of the damn government snooping around in our business, taxing me to death, etc.

Now I have to deal with a big brother in my hobby too?

Reading my mail messages, transactions, etc.

I really hope CCP stops this crap in the future. I damn near quit the game over it


Great, now it's CCP's fault?

Once again, not every corp requires you to give them anything, and nobody is forcing you to join one that does.
Abdiel Kavash
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#165 - 2012-11-03 08:15:49 UTC
Ginger Barbarella wrote:
There's a reason why corps are ripped off for billions. And I doubt very seriously that it's from toons that have spent years as part of "the team" (except in those sweet, rare circumstances of patient planning and scut work).


I guess it depends on the scale. Sure, spending months to infiltrate a highsec miner corp to grab an Orca killmail is probably not worth it. But from my experience among 0.0 alliances (or at least in the north), the biggest damage is not done by enemy spies and infiltration. The biggest damage is done by directors and high-level officers who are for this or that reason dissatisfied with the state of affairs and decide to screw the corp over for revenge or personal profit.
Oaiso
#166 - 2012-11-03 08:16:47 UTC
Shepard Wong Ogeko wrote:
I gladly handed over full APIs to all may characters. I got nothing to hide.

Which makes me wonder...


Why are so many people afraid to give up a full API? You guys trying to keep secrets in your evemails? Are you a bunch of perverts or spies or perverted spies?


The thing is you didn't receive any API info in return... It was a one way deal.

It's really a very submissive thing that you're doing.

You're completely laying yourself bare in acquiescence to a 0.0 lord.

Some people aren't like you, I'm not saying it's bad to be like you. The world needs people like you, I respect your lack of dignity. Could you imagine if everyone in the world was an individual in possession of dignity and his own free will? It just wouldn't work. Your sheepish slavishness makes the world turn/
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#167 - 2012-11-03 08:20:25 UTC
Oaiso wrote:

Sure


Sent.
Oaiso
#168 - 2012-11-03 08:22:31 UTC
Akirei Scytale wrote:
Oaiso wrote:

Sure


Sent.


For the record, Akirei Scytale does have a Diplomatic Passport.
Abdiel Kavash
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#169 - 2012-11-03 08:25:37 UTC
Oaiso wrote:
The thing is you didn't receive any API info in return... It was a one way deal.

You receive admission to the corporation you desired. Whether that's worth it for you or not, that's up to you.

Oaiso wrote:
Some people aren't like you, I'm not saying it's bad to be like you. The world needs people like you, I respect your lack of dignity. Could you imagine if everyone in the world was an individual in possession of dignity and his own free will? It just wouldn't work. Your sheepish slavishness makes the world turn/

Alright, I get your point - but I think it's a pretty big leap comparing information about where and from whom I bought my last Hurricane to a loss of dignity and free will. Some people simply have nothing to hide, and thus are giving up nothing.
Shepard Wong Ogeko
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#170 - 2012-11-03 08:26:02 UTC
Oaiso wrote:
Shepard Wong Ogeko wrote:
I gladly handed over full APIs to all may characters. I got nothing to hide.

Which makes me wonder...


Why are so many people afraid to give up a full API? You guys trying to keep secrets in your evemails? Are you a bunch of perverts or spies or perverted spies?


The thing is you didn't receive any API info in return... It was a one way deal.

It's really a very submissive thing that you're doing.

You're completely laying yourself bare in acquiescence to a 0.0 lord.

Some people aren't like you, I'm not saying it's bad to be like you. The world needs people like you, I respect your lack of dignity. Could you imagine if everyone in the world was an individual in possession of dignity and his own free will? It just wouldn't work. Your sheepish slavishness makes the world turn/



At least I have the dignity to be open about my correspondences on homoerotic Eve fanfiction. I hope that one day you too can come out of your NPC corp closet and find a accepting community to join.
Oaiso
#171 - 2012-11-03 08:31:25 UTC
Abdiel Kavash wrote:
Some people simply have nothing to hide, and thus are giving up nothing.


Oh but you do have so much to lose you just don't know it. Your ego is suffering beneath the surface. Soon you will be sacrificing your sexuality

Shepard Wong Ogeko wrote:

At least I have the dignity to be open about my correspondences on homoerotic Eve fanfiction.
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#172 - 2012-11-03 08:34:39 UTC
Oaiso wrote:

Oh but you do have so much to lose you just don't know it. Your ego is suffering beneath the surface. Soon you will be sacrificing your sexuality


You should see what happens on TEST fleets when hostiles refuse to come and play.

I'm still scarred by the dramatic reading of that homoerotic fanfiction involving Spock, Kirk, Picard, Sponge Bob and Harry Potter.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#173 - 2012-11-03 08:45:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Andski
Oaiso wrote:
You have absolutely no privacy and you know if you even say something out of line, you're in trouble because they actively monitor your emails, your posts, even your chat history.


You understand that the API doesn't give access to chat history, right? Only I see my emails, and Goonswarm services don't have any API key of mine that grants access to my evemails. Also, being in the directorate, I don't know of anybody tasked with monitoring posts made by our members in every imaginable forum. If somebody posts something "out of line," we just mock them endlessly. v0v

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#174 - 2012-11-03 08:48:15 UTC
Akirei Scytale wrote:
Oaiso wrote:
Oh but you do have so much to lose you just don't know it. Your ego is suffering beneath the surface. Soon you will be sacrificing your sexuality

You should see what happens on TEST fleets when hostiles refuse to come and play.

I'm still scarred by the dramatic reading of that homoerotic fanfiction involving Spock, Kirk, Picard, Sponge Bob and Harry Potter.

I know on one fleet Boat read something ... different. (I wasn't there, so I'm still in the dark, apparently it was pretty bad).

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#175 - 2012-11-03 08:49:09 UTC
One time Mittens read a really bad fanfic on TEST comms when they were in the middle of some structure grind or something. There's a recording somewhere, it owns.

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Oaiso
#176 - 2012-11-03 08:52:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Oaiso
Andski wrote:
Oaiso wrote:
You have absolutely no privacy and you know if you even say something out of line, you're in trouble because they actively monitor your emails, your posts, even your chat history.


You understand that the API doesn't give access to chat history, right? Only I see my emails, and Goonswarm services don't have any API key of mine that grants access to my evemails. Also, being in the directorate, I don't know of anybody tasked with monitoring posts made by our members in every imaginable forum. If somebody posts something "out of line," we just mock them endlessly. v0v


Do you even bother putting what I say in context?

Natsett Amuinn wrote:

Not to mention it allows people to connect other dots. There are 3rd party tools that allow people to see your chat history. By looking at all the activity of your character and sifting through chat history people can figure out a lot about who you really are.


That's great you're a director, it's really besides the point. But you should know mocking someone is a form of social coercion and through the application of things like this it's no surprise that most goons end up sounding/thinking the same. Especially after they've submitted so thoroughly to the group before hand by giving up their full API. (edit: not to mention paying 10$ to join a forum)
Nyla Skin
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#177 - 2012-11-03 08:56:39 UTC
Touval Lysander wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:

Moe Doobie wrote:
I just want to have some fun man, s**t....


You're in the wrong game.

BINGO.....

Game <> Fun

This is Eve.


So you are wasting your time and money on something thats not even fun and gives nothing in return? That sounds.. swell.

In after the lock :P   - CCP Falcon www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#178 - 2012-11-03 09:01:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Andski
Oaiso wrote:
That's great you're a director, it's really besides the point. But you should know mocking someone is a form of social coercion and through the application of things like this it's no surprise that most goons end up sounding/thinking the same. Especially after they've submitted so thoroughly to the group before hand by giving up their full API.


Wow, you seem surprised that members of a nullsec alliance oppose ideas that ruin nullsec.

Believe it or not, we don't indoctrinate our members. Most of us in Goonswarm are adults and we can think for ourselves, but we tend to agree on certain things like "hey perhaps changing the game to favor hisec even more isn't a great idea."

This must be a shocking revelation

Oaiso wrote:
(edit: not to mention paying 10$ to join a forum)


I've already refuted this and I believe it was in response to you. The purpose of Goonswarm isn't to get EVE players to register on SA, it's to bring SA members into EVE and have fun.

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Oaiso
#179 - 2012-11-03 09:06:11 UTC
Andski wrote:

Believe it or not, we don't indoctrinate our members.


What?

Quote:
Most of us in Goonswarm are adults and we can think for ourselves


Stopped reading. We'll just have to agree to disagree.

It's not as though I thought you'd accept the obvious revelations I just laid down. You have to sleep at night after all.
Kaylyis
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#180 - 2012-11-03 09:07:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Kaylyis
Oaiso wrote:

But you should know mocking someone is a form of social coercion and through the application of things like this it's no surprise that most goons end up sounding/thinking the same. Especially after they've submitted so thoroughly to the group before hand by giving up their full API.


Your high horse got a broken leg, so I shot it. Mockery is also used in cameraderie, and to inform people that theyre being dumbasses.

The politically correct movement needs to be taken off life support, because aggressive behavior and irreverent speech arent bullying and coercion by themselves. Quit telling people they`re being victimized because you think someone is a jackass.

Love the sociopolitical and psychological ranting that comes off like someone took an online sociology course and are now experts on human behavior.

I took a philosophy course and now i'm an *******.

"I can't come to dinner honey, someone is being WRONG on the internet!"