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Where's the Retribution speculation?
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Cromzor
Hideaway Hunters
The Hideaway.
#1 - 2012-11-01 19:31:18 UTC
I've been a lurker for years but haven't posted much, lets see if this is a mistake, probably, anyway..

Where are the Retribution speculation posts?

We all know there's speculation going on related to the Retribution expansion. Shouldn't one of you trillionaires who have already invested all your capital be making some type of extremely complex essay with tons of detailed graphs and charts to push the market where you want? Cmon, use your fame to get us masses to prop up your predictions with foolish lemmingness so you don't even need to be right to get richer.

Or am I too early? I've always had a problem with premature isk speculation...
GreenSeed
#2 - 2012-11-01 19:52:46 UTC  |  Edited by: GreenSeed
Nothing is changing that isn’t blatantly obvious, like t3 farms switching production away from tengus. Same with Drakes.

The only thing people thought of profiting off was a suspected link between PI and Dust items, but that’s been rebuked by the seeding of items in the market. FW nerf came early, and those 2 or 3 people that didn’t see it coming must be very angry, the rest are sitting on products that will last them another 2 years. :p

so, i dont think theres much to speculate anyway... as usual, PLEX might be interesting as theres some items that seem to be similar, but for dust players.
Nanatoa
#3 - 2012-11-01 20:54:09 UTC
No you're not early at all. In fact this is the perfect time to start speculating. Never mind the fact that all relevant information is out for weeks if not months already - that's just an unimportant detail. You should absolutely spend your fortune at this most opportune moment. I can't say exactly what you should buy of course, but you may want to have a look at fullerides (but don't tell anyone!)

"Stay the course, we have done this many times before." - (CCP) Hilmar, June 2011
Ashina Sito
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-11-02 01:15:29 UTC
I am too busy speculating on the stuff for the winter 2013 patch, or at east the announcement of it.. Big smile
JohnathanGalt
Northern Sky Industries
#5 - 2012-11-02 12:39:15 UTC
Ashina Sito wrote:
I am too busy speculating on the stuff for the winter 2013 patch, or at east the announcement of it.. Big smile


Fuel Blocks, becasue everyone is going to own a POS.
Ms Sade
Hammertime Holding
Division Nine Alliance
#6 - 2012-11-02 15:48:38 UTC
buy HAMs cause every one's got a drake and HMLs are being nurffed to the ground...
Nanatoa
#7 - 2012-11-02 15:55:22 UTC
Stabber Fleet Issues, because James 315 is going to rule high sec

"Stay the course, we have done this many times before." - (CCP) Hilmar, June 2011
The VC's
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2012-11-02 17:21:43 UTC
You could probably still make something by buying up +5 implants. The price has only increased by 5-10 mil since the FW nerf. They're going to settle back around 140-150 mil in a few months once stockpiles are depleted.
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#9 - 2012-11-02 18:53:37 UTC
If there was away to short PLEX you could probly make some ISK speculating... it'll probably go down to ~500 million but I have doubts it'll ever dip into the 400s again
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#10 - 2012-11-02 18:55:26 UTC  |  Edited by: DarthNefarius
The VC's wrote:
You could probably still make something by buying up +5 implants. The price has only increased by 5-10 mil since the FW nerf. They're going to settle back around 140-150 mil in a few months once stockpiles are depleted.


Its going to take 2-3 years at least for them stocks to be depleted... possibly 5 years if alot of the accounts with tons of them in thier hagars don't unsub
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
The VC's
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2012-11-02 19:09:14 UTC  |  Edited by: The VC's
DarthNefarius wrote:
The VC's wrote:
You could probably still make something by buying up +5 implants. The price has only increased by 5-10 mil since the FW nerf. They're going to settle back around 140-150 mil in a few months once stockpiles are depleted.


Its going to take 2-3 years at least for them stocks to be depleted... possibly 5 years if alot of the accounts with tons of them in thier hagars don't unsub



Maybe. I'd still expect a steady rise over the next few months. Most FW farmers cashed out already. The stockpilers wil want the price to rise.
corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
#12 - 2012-11-02 20:28:10 UTC
On the other hand, DarthNefarius has never made a credible post on any topic, ever.

This post was crafted by a member of the GoonSwarm Federation Economic Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay.

fofofo
Styth spiting
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2012-11-03 00:01:30 UTC
Buy or manufacture Orcas.

First few days after the scanable cargo bays patch hits there will be dozens of Orcas getting popped hauling items they didn't know could be scanned. This also means that valuable items will not be as easily transported as they have in the past, so people who have in the past used Orcas for hauling (mainly because of their speed compared to a freighter) will now no longer have the free pass.

Prices will be going up because of the demand to replace all the lost ships just from the first initial release days.

Also now that Orcas will be targeted more (and lost more frequently) there will be a big grab for Orca related manufacturing BPO's from the sales orders forum as well as contracts because of the higher demand for the ships.

It will take about 2 weeks after the patch hits before production can ramp up to meet replacement needs so prices will be increasing until the market gets over saturated by people coming to the party to late to price spike.

Prices have all ready been going up as some people have all ready realized this. With the current price at 694M I'd speculate that though the initial patch release week the prices will be at around 750M - 775M.
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#14 - 2012-11-03 02:21:21 UTC  |  Edited by: DarthNefarius
corestwo wrote:
On the other hand, DarthNefarius has never made a credible post on any topic, ever.


lol a Goon is questioning somebody's credibility?!?!? trololololo Roll
Can I put down that deposit to join Goons in your credible hands?
or better yet I can trust Goonswarms leader as a credible 3rd party for purchasing TITAN ships? Blink
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#15 - 2012-11-03 02:24:55 UTC
Styth spiting wrote:
Buy or manufacture Orcas.

First few days after the scanable cargo bays patch hits there will be dozens of Orcas getting popped hauling items they didn't know could be scanned. This also means that valuable items will not be as easily transported as they have in the past, so people who have in the past used Orcas for hauling (mainly because of their speed compared to a freighter) will now no longer have the free pass.

Prices will be going up because of the demand to replace all the lost ships just from the first initial release days.

Also now that Orcas will be targeted more (and lost more frequently) there will be a big grab for Orca related manufacturing BPO's from the sales orders forum as well as contracts because of the higher demand for the ships.

It will take about 2 weeks after the patch hits before production can ramp up to meet replacement needs so prices will be increasing until the market gets over saturated by people coming to the party to late to price spike.

Prices have all ready been going up as some people have all ready realized this. With the current price at 694M I'd speculate that though the initial patch release week the prices will be at around 750M - 775M.



That's one I didn't think of thnx Big smile
anything else with corp hangars that'll become fleet hangers?
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Styth spiting
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2012-11-03 03:35:28 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:


That's one I didn't think of thnx Big smile
anything else with corp hangars that'll become fleet hangers?


Rorquals, capitals, POS items were initially planned but are not included in the list.

There will also be 5 new containers of various sizes to replace divisions, so yeah, guess ME research on those BPO's or people seeding them could make a few quick isk too.
corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
#17 - 2012-11-03 05:17:17 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:
corestwo wrote:
On the other hand, DarthNefarius has never made a credible post on any topic, ever.


lol a Goon is questioning somebody's credibility?!?!? trololololo Roll
Can I put down that deposit to join Goons in your credible hands?
or better yet I can trust Goonswarms leader as a credible 3rd party for purchasing TITAN ships? Blink


the fact that the general public probably shouldn't trust goons has literally no bearing on the fact that you are a gibbering baboon.

This post was crafted by a member of the GoonSwarm Federation Economic Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay.

fofofo
Abditus Cularius
Clancularius Industries
#18 - 2012-11-03 08:46:13 UTC
Styth spiting wrote:
DarthNefarius wrote:


That's one I didn't think of thnx Big smile
anything else with corp hangars that'll become fleet hangers?


Rorquals, capitals, POS items were initially planned but are not included in the list.

There will also be 5 new containers of various sizes to replace divisions, so yeah, guess ME research on those BPO's or people seeding them could make a few quick isk too.


Rorquals and carriers both have fleet hangars instead of corp on Duality currently.
Zann Mei
Goonswarm Federation
#19 - 2012-11-03 15:48:12 UTC
As far as I've seen from the Duality test server, the logistic cruisers are getting their mineral costs nearly doubled to around 8m ISK current prices. Logistic frigates are also getting their mineral costs increased by quite a lot. Small shield and armor RR has bounced in price, and the supply of meta small RR will probably be outgrown by the demand in the weeks after Retribution, if not immediately.
Dave stark
#20 - 2012-11-03 17:29:58 UTC
i'll wager blockade runners may increase in demand once people realise their orcas are getting popped because they can now be scanned.

if you can't have an invisible cargo hold, an invisible ship is the next best thing.
just a thought.
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