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How much isk would you consider to be very rich?
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Terra Volta
Hysera Innovations
#1 - 2011-10-19 01:50:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Terra Volta
Out of curiosity, if a player were to make isk without the use of any exploits (botting), how much isk would you consider to be very rich?
egola
NSFW federation
#2 - 2011-10-19 02:09:02 UTC
over 9000, we're all rich at heart
Elise DarkStar
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2011-10-19 02:12:51 UTC
at least 500b
flakeys
Doomheim
#4 - 2011-10-19 05:48:14 UTC
Elise DarkStar wrote:
at least 500b


Aye at LEAST

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Florestan Bronstein
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2011-10-19 08:06:49 UTC
has been discussed often in the past, look up the old threads

imagine you have 80b ISK.

If you fly subcapital ships that's obscenely rich.
If you fly supercarriers that is enough to replace a few losses.
If you use all the money to buy & fit one titan you will feel pretty poor.


Then there is the question whether you define "rich" by wealth or income.
Luxi Daphiti
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2011-10-19 08:12:42 UTC
Brollox
Syndicate Enterprise
Sigma Grindset
#7 - 2011-10-19 09:12:11 UTC
I depends on if you are talking Isk rich or Collateral rich.........

I have never been really isk rich until I sold my main My Old Main but I had always flown top fitted SC's and pimp ships and never really bothered about losing the odd one as I could always afford to replace them.

I generally only ever had 20/30b in liquid isk but ALWAYS had 5x+ that in assets.

I sold my main when CCP ruined the game with blob warfare and superlag and after playing since 2003 I thought I would try something different.........hence hanging around in MD. To be fair to the MD dwellers it is a far more brutal place than null sec, plus I like the higher level of intelligence in these forums although plenty of trolls but most of it is people in MD 'don't suffer fools gladly'.

in answer to the OP question all I can say is:

Its easy to make LOTS of ISK when you have LOTS of isk.

I used to be a Killer ............

Now I am Market Warrior and Investor
Chevalleis
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2011-10-19 11:44:49 UTC
It's all relevant. For example, Entity, who is one of the wealthiest guys in eve, has around 4 trillion isk, but I doubt he keeps more than 200b of it liquid. And he owns stuff that's very hard to convert into ISK. Then we have another guy, who has 500b ISK in his/her wallet, but not much of solid ISK. Which one would you define to be richer?
BornToDieAnotherDay
Tarazed Technology
#9 - 2011-10-19 12:08:21 UTC
Why do people always have to be so philosophical about the question? Just give a damn number.

Personally 100b+ is my mark, then again I'm small time compared to most people here.
DJ Blackman
Often AFK
#10 - 2011-10-19 12:21:06 UTC
Given the amount of isk in circulation in the game, wouldn't 2-3tn + isk figure be more acceptable?
Scrapyard Bob
EVE University
Ivy League
#11 - 2011-10-19 14:18:06 UTC
New players consider anyone who has 1B ISK to be "very rich". For older players, it's somewhere in the 200-500B range. For the titans of industry and finance, something above 1T ISK.

(It probably took me a year or two to make my first billion. We didn't have PI or Incursions back then. With the big ISK faucet of Incursions and all of the liquid ISK sloshing around compared to '07, it's a lot easier for newer players to earn ISK. After you make your first billion, it's a lot easier to jump up to 10B then to 100B.)
Elise DarkStar
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2011-10-19 14:26:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Elise DarkStar
Scrapyard Bob wrote:
After you make your first billion, it's a lot easier to jump up to 10B then to 100B.)


And then after 100b it's a pain in the ass again :P

Then again, I'm infinitely more lazy now than when I had much less.

Edit: if only there was some kind of player-driven investment market where newer players could propose business plans and older rich players could lend them money with an interest rate...someone should look into setting something like this up. You could even do it right here on the MD forum.























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Brollox
Syndicate Enterprise
Sigma Grindset
#13 - 2011-10-19 14:36:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Brollox
Elise DarkStar wrote:
Scrapyard Bob wrote:
After you make your first billion, it's a lot easier to jump up to 10B then to 100B.)


And then after 100b it's a pain in the ass again :P

Then again, I'm infinitely more lazy now than when I had much less.


Yep I have to agree..........once you pass the 100b mark , you generally become a little more laid back and look for ways to make isk without having to log on for 10 hours a day or play 0.1isk games in stations

Problem with that is you have to risk larger amounts of isk to make it worth while. I have been quite lucky so far and have invested in some good projects and some good people who (fingers crossed) have not caused any problem.......... this to me is easy money while helping out the up and coming players.

The future Elise's/Raw23/Flakeys........ if you know what I mean!!

I used to be a Killer ............

Now I am Market Warrior and Investor
Mantra Achura
Stammtisch
#14 - 2011-10-19 18:02:57 UTC
Passing the 1 trillion mark would be my magical barrier to richness.
flakeys
Doomheim
#15 - 2011-10-19 18:19:18 UTC
Chevalleis wrote:
It's all relevant. For example, Entity, who is one of the wealthiest guys in eve, has around 4 trillion isk, but I doubt he keeps more than 200b of it liquid. And he owns stuff that's very hard to convert into ISK. Then we have another guy, who has 500b ISK in his/her wallet, but not much of solid ISK. Which one would you define to be richer?



The one with the hottest chick?

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
flakeys
Doomheim
#16 - 2011-10-19 18:26:20 UTC  |  Edited by: flakeys
Brollox wrote:
Elise DarkStar wrote:
Scrapyard Bob wrote:
After you make your first billion, it's a lot easier to jump up to 10B then to 100B.)


And then after 100b it's a pain in the ass again :P

Then again, I'm infinitely more lazy now than when I had much less.


Yep I have to agree..........once you pass the 100b mark , you generally become a little more laid back and look for ways to make isk without having to log on for 10 hours a day or play 0.1isk games in stations




Speaking for myself form the 100B on you start loosing the urge/will to make more isk.Every few months i start a good isksink -usually comes down to pirating with 2 accs in WAY too expensive pvp ships and loosing them every other day- after that i find the will again to make isk.Last time i done this i lost approx 35% of my isk in a timeframe of 1 to 2 months.Sucking at pvp and trying to avoid blue blobbing really helps with this btw.That and failing to see/not caring about the red blob coming in.

Rince and repeat to keep the game attractive Blink

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Brollox
Syndicate Enterprise
Sigma Grindset
#17 - 2011-10-19 18:47:52 UTC
flakeys wrote:
Brollox wrote:
Elise DarkStar wrote:
Scrapyard Bob wrote:
After you make your first billion, it's a lot easier to jump up to 10B then to 100B.)


And then after 100b it's a pain in the ass again :P

Then again, I'm infinitely more lazy now than when I had much less.


Yep I have to agree..........once you pass the 100b mark , you generally become a little more laid back and look for ways to make isk without having to log on for 10 hours a day or play 0.1isk games in stations




Speaking for myself form the 100B on you start loosing the urge/will to make more isk.Every few months i start a good isksink -usually comes down to pirating with 2 accs in WAY too expensive pvp ships and loosing them every other day- after that i find the will again to make isk.Last time i done this i lost approx 35% of my isk in a timeframe of 1 to 2 months.Sucking at pvp and trying to avoid blue blobbing really helps with this btw.That and failing to see/not caring about the red blob coming in.

Rince and repeat to keep the game attractive Blink


Been over 12 months now since I pvp'd and then it was not fun, I have a pvp chara on another account but I have never pirated in all my years playing.... PiratePirate I have lost a fair bit of my total isk on learning the ropes and market speculation but after 12/18 months of doing this I can *if wanted* to make some decent isk without losing 5/10b in one go RollRoll

In my MD investment I have only been caught once with a scam, but I have to say it is a pretty decent way of making some half decent isk for little :effort:

I used to be a Killer ............

Now I am Market Warrior and Investor
Samroski
Middle-Earth
#18 - 2011-10-19 18:53:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Samroski
I used to think that 100b is rich, and about a trillion is "very rich" (OP's question).

Now that I am around the first landmark in assets, I am not too sure. I do feel rich, but liquid ISK hardly ever goes above 15b. This is more than enough for my usual needs, but as a noob I had plans of hiring mercs to so some dirty work when I made 100b, and 100b in assets is not enough for my plans.

Thus I think I'll be rich when I have 100b cash routinely in the wallet. And very rich with about a trillion cash routinely in the wallet.

Any colour you like.
Tom Hagen
Twilight Empire
#19 - 2011-10-19 20:22:03 UTC
Rich - some 200 Billion

Very rich - over the 1T mark
Mekhana
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2011-10-19 20:39:54 UTC
Being rich is a liability in this game. The more you risk losing.

That is if you actually undock and shoot people.

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