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Missioners: What is your goal?

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I Accidentally YourShip
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2011-10-19 10:28:24 UTC  |  Edited by: I Accidentally YourShip
SECOND EDIT: Thank you for all the replies from the people who do not qualify under the criteria below. Your replies have not been helpful. To the people who feel that they need to analyse the motive behind my creation of said thread, you are equally useless to the point of the topic, but entertaining nonetheless. To any mission runners who actually replied to the thread with a good answer that I missed, I apologise, the general replies to this thread have killed my interest, which was a fleeting and spontaneous one to begin with.

THIRD EDIT: For the people who are a waste of bytes on this forum and too lazy to read the thread, the original post has been left up for reference. Anything you could possibly respond to this post has already been covered and discussed. Just read quietly and add your opinions after doing so.



Why do you mission endlessly? I'm not talking to the people who fuel their expensive pvp habits with missioning, I'm talking about the people who mission and mission to get more ISK, to get a bigger ship so you can get more ISK faster.

Why? I'm curious. Is mission running therapeutic? Is it fun to you? Do you enjoy getting the same small pool of missions over and over again, dominating the same NPCs with a small amount of risk and no artificial path of progression? Unlike most other treadmill games that attach effort to progress EVE does not do that. Ships are disposable, even expensive ships with expensive modules can eventually be replaced. The illusion of progress in this game is skill points which are static in gain. No effort you make improves your character itself in any way, only time does that. Where is the carrot to actively chase?

This is not a flame / troll / bait post, I am a former EVE player who is interested in the viewpoints of missioners who continue to do something that I burned out on due to lack of direction and goal a long time ago.
St Mio
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2011-10-19 10:49:43 UTC
To be the very best, that no one ever was, to blitz them all is my real cause?
Belthazor4011
Battle BV Redux
#3 - 2011-10-19 10:51:08 UTC
U mad bro?

Now that we got that covered, newer/better/faster ships is a form of improvement. So that respect unless you've reached the ultimate ship that alone can be a reason to do it.

Some people just like being rich in a virtual world. Tons of big games have no real end game, people play Sim City, The Sims etc over and over and the only thing you can reach is a better city or a better job. How is that different from a better ship?!

Some just like seeing how fast they can do it either alone or with friends, some just like to see with which ships they can do it. A lvl 4 with a frig for instance.

Some do it because it beats listening to a nagging parter and/or kids.

Anyways there is not a single answer, so many players so many reasons. I am sure people can think of many more then the few that I just mentioned.
Sam Bowein
Sense Amid Madness
#4 - 2011-10-19 10:55:33 UTC
Personnally, I do missions to pay for my GTCs.

That's 800M every two months. I'm playing maybe 4 hours a week, and missions allow me to jump right into the action.
I tried Incursions, but it's really annoying having to wait for other people to join.

As for the limited amount of missions, well when I'm bored I just change factions ;)
I Accidentally YourShip
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2011-10-19 11:35:16 UTC  |  Edited by: I Accidentally YourShip
Belthazor4011 wrote:


Anyways there is not a single answer, so many players so many reasons. I am sure people can think of many more then the few that I just mentioned.


That is the point of this question, of course there is more than one answer as there are many unique individuals playing this game, and I am curious to see the spread of reasons.

The ship to me is not a form of improvement as the ship is a disposable tool.

I definitely think you nailed it hard on the head with the being rich and/or powerful in a virtual world. That seems like it would be a very common one, even if many people don't like to admit it as it tends to be judged by others as petty and pathetic, which it isn't really.


St Mio wrote:
To be the very best, that no one ever was, to blitz them all is my real cause?


Liked.
I Accidentally YourShip
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2011-10-19 11:41:06 UTC
Sam Bowein wrote:
Personnally, I do missions to pay for my GTCs.

That's 800M every two months. I'm playing maybe 4 hours a week, and missions allow me to jump right into the action.
I tried Incursions, but it's really annoying having to wait for other people to join.

As for the limited amount of missions, well when I'm bored I just change factions ;)


This was my mindset down to the "t" for a few months. But that too lost purpose when I realized that I was just playing so I could play, and not for enjoyment. I found no challenge in missions after I got my Machariel, not that there was any challenge in an Arty Maelstrom either, it just took longer.
Jessica Issier
#7 - 2011-10-19 12:23:11 UTC
I see missioning as a means to an end, the end being blowing other people up Big smile

But I did realize that there are FAR better ways to make money and stopped running them a while ago
XXSketchxx
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
#8 - 2011-10-19 12:27:14 UTC
St Mio wrote:
To be the very best, that no one ever was, to blitz them all is my real cause?


This woman is a liar. She does not mission.

I KNOW THIS TO BE TRUE.
Goose99
#9 - 2011-10-19 14:14:54 UTC
I mission when I get bored gatecamping and shooting ppl in a blob.

Btw, why do you do what you do in a sandbox? It's all-so-pointless...Cool
mxzf
Shovel Bros
#10 - 2011-10-19 14:19:54 UTC
Personally, I can't stand grinding missions. I like being able to do a bit of everything though, just because I like changing up what I do every now and then. I'll run a couple lvl 4 missions every now and then when I feel like blowing stuff up but don't really feel like going through much effort.

I did run missions fairly constantly for a bit, a long time ago, and I was doing it mostly for the ISK, but I find them too boring to do constantly. Now a days I do them half for the fun of blowing some stuff up and half for a bit of extra ISK on the side.
I Accidentally YourShip
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2011-10-19 14:37:28 UTC
Goose99 wrote:
I mission when I get bored gatecamping and shooting ppl in a blob.

Btw, why do you do what you do in a sandbox? It's all-so-pointless...Cool


Almost true, I found purpose in suicide ganking other people while I still played for a while, to harvest tears. That was fun for a while.
Goose99
#12 - 2011-10-19 14:42:30 UTC
I Accidentally YourShip wrote:
Goose99 wrote:
I mission when I get bored gatecamping and shooting ppl in a blob.

Btw, why do you do what you do in a sandbox? It's all-so-pointless...Cool


Almost true, I found purpose in suicide ganking other people while I still played for a while, to harvest tears. That was fun for a while.


CCP appreciates your service at assisting in cancellation of player subscriptions.Big smile
Mekhana
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2011-10-19 15:06:53 UTC
"For the love of god make the missioning stop so I can go back to PVP."

Vide longe er eros di Luminaire VII, uni canse pra krage e determiniex! Sange por Sange! Descanse bravex eros, mie freires. Mortir por vostre Liberete, farmilie, ide e amis. lons Proviste sen mort! Luminaire liber mas! 

Goose99
#14 - 2011-10-19 15:10:34 UTC
Mekhana wrote:
"For the love of god make the missioning stop so I can go back to PVP."


Buy gametime and sell plex, bumCool
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2011-10-19 15:42:42 UTC
Agent, Corporation and Faction Standings.
Anvil44
Quantshure
#16 - 2011-10-19 16:00:01 UTC
I like to blow things up. Not interested in PvP yet as my free time is too limited to commit to this right now. Maybe sometime in the future but for now, missions fit the bill perfectly cause you can always (unless scrammed) warp away to a station if RL calls.

I may not like you or your point of view but you have a right to voice it.

Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2011-10-19 16:14:49 UTC
Self righteous much? The bigger question is why do you care? Seem people like PVP. some people like PVE. Some people enjoy missions. Some people enjoy sitting in station and trading all day. Some people I know run 6 clients (yes 6) in a mining gang all day and then build stuff.

I would venture to guess each person does these activities because they find it enjoyable.

For me, I do it all. I run missions, but eventually get bored. I do some high/low/null pve (exploration). I go on PVP roams with friends.

For me, when I run missions I enjoy kind of 2 aspects. First it's easy isk to rebuild the coffers. I also enjoy running the same missions and see how I can be more efficient. Kind of like racing against myself.


But again I am more curious, why do you care what others find enjoyable?
Nex apparatu5
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#18 - 2011-10-19 18:01:59 UTC
Derath Ellecon wrote:
Self righteous much? The bigger question is why do you care? Seem people like PVP. some people like PVE. Some people enjoy missions. Some people enjoy sitting in station and trading all day. Some people I know run 6 clients (yes 6) in a mining gang all day and then build stuff.

I would venture to guess each person does these activities because they find it enjoyable.

For me, I do it all. I run missions, but eventually get bored. I do some high/low/null pve (exploration). I go on PVP roams with friends.

For me, when I run missions I enjoy kind of 2 aspects. First it's easy isk to rebuild the coffers. I also enjoy running the same missions and see how I can be more efficient. Kind of like racing against myself.


But again I am more curious, why do you care what others find enjoyable?

You are the reason this forum needs a downvote feature.

Seriously, did you even read the thread?
Fozzy Dorsai
Friendly but Irritating
#19 - 2011-10-19 18:42:05 UTC
1) I like blowing things up. PVE let's me blow things up.
2) I like ISK. Blowing things up in PVE gives me ISK. Goal is 100B. I need to go blow up more things.
3) I like trading. I don't like fees. Missions give me standings which lower my trading fees.
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2011-10-19 18:46:47 UTC
Nex apparatu5 wrote:
You are the reason this forum needs a downvote feature.

Seriously, did you even read the thread?



Of course I did. I especially enjoyed the OP's statement

I accidentally Your ship wrote:
This is not a flame / troll / bait post, I am a former EVE player who is interested in the viewpoints of missioners who continue to do something that I burned out on due to lack of direction and goal a long time ago.


When this so obviously is a troll. His statement above is essentially a polite way of asking "how the hell do you people do the same thing over and over again without your head exploding?"

This is further reinforced by his replies such as

I accidentally Your ship wrote:
This was my mindset down to the "t" for a few months. But that too lost purpose when I realized that I was just playing so I could play, and not for enjoyment. I found no challenge in missions after I got my Machariel, not that there was any challenge in an Arty Maelstrom either, it just took longer.


Which is very much "I used to be just like you until I saw the light"

He may not even realize he's trolling, but he is.

So IMO my question back is valid. The only reason I have seen that he would care to know why others mission is so he can follow up with "yea I used to be just like you until I realized it was lame" or "but seriously, how can you enjoy that?"

Interesting he also posed the same "how can you possibly enjoy mining" type thread in Industry. Yet he doesn't have a "How can you guys stand to PVP all day?" in warfare or C&P.
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