Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Now Lili, how does that egg feel?

Best regards, Noemi

See, you're learning Noemi. A day and half of stats in isolation mean next to nothing. We'll see how things are looking later in the month. And we'll have to remember the continued trend that has been displayed over many months, indeed years.

As for the lack of posting all top 20 on my previous post, Noemi, it was already presented as somehow invalidating what I said, and countered by me. -



Maybe you need to read the thread more Noemi. I wasn't ducking anything. I have no skin in projectiles. I have them trained, but I also have tech II lasers, and tech II missiles of all kinds trained (no capital size for either though). I have not been arguing that there isn't something collectively advantageous and overused with some projectile guns. But the mistakes you HM apologists make is to lump all projectile guns together and also to think that somehow the collective strength of them absolves the op status of HMs. Projectiles will see some adjustments I suspect. It could be specific gun stats adjusted or more likely a rethinking of the overdone TE buff of a while back. I really don't care, sorry to deflate your hope for my as irrational anger as yours to some possible impending projectile nerf.

Anyway, because it is something I care about, statistics and analysis of them, let me link something about analyzing polling data in the presidential election in the US. http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/01/in-nevada-obama-ryan-and-signs-of-a-new-democratic-leaning-normal/#more-36829
It's somewhat similar to eve-kill killmail stats. They are in essence data that has to be analyzed, like polling data. The more data you have, the better your conclusions and predictions are. I would love it if Eve-kill would give us more raw information, more complete information, and more ability to break down the information for analysis. Maybe in the future it will. Until then we have to deal with it as it is. And the simple point is that one day's data in isolation tells you very little.

edit - and won't a projectile nerf hurt ROU? Do we have a butthurt ROU to look forward to when the projectile nerf that he called for in fact comes as well? Maybe you will by that time understand that games change in response to overuse of overly advantaged items or paths. HMs were too far out in front for usage and parameters on damage and range compared to other medium long range weapons. The nerf was bound to happen. But other missiles are getting buffs. Change in action.

Possibly. Although I suspect with combat command ships there will likley be more buffing of the underperforming ships. There is a general acknowledgment that sp and isk investment being rather high for these ships that they should perform like a Sleip and not like the others.

With current rebalancing we are seeing buffs and not just nerfs. This class of ships seems more akin to the recent frig and cruiser situations, and less like the current tier 2 and 3 BC situations, imo.

Noemi. I know who I was quoting. I linked that quote to show you someone else had already posted the same retort and that it was no big deal. Anyway, I'm glad you're so glad about finally putting the egg I invited you to put on my face. I cooked up some lunch and am enjoying some chai spiced tea now.

Honestly, I don't know why people use npc corp alts to post on the forums. People should lend more weight to their arguments by posting with a character that has some pvp history if what you are posting about involves pvp. If one is posting in the industry sub forum of whatever it doesn't matter. Or if one has a comedy alt for GD flaming that's fine too. But in a thread such as this, concerning the alterations to ships and weapons used in (or at least primarilly balanced around) pvp, then post with a character that has some pvp history.

Thanks for doing it Noemi. Feel free to keep posting with ROU, even though Noemi is more pleasant to look at.

CCP are F***ing over PVE'ing carebear lazytown watchers in every way they can. that way if they drive out all the lazytown watchers it just leaves the PVP'ers who will buy plex off CCP to fund their fun, because they're to awesome to waste time with PVE when they're part of a big fancy alliance.


they've ruined drones for pve and missiles. SO for gallante and caldari pilots that leave railguns which suck more than any weapon in game!

I'm a drone pilot and with the new update coming i'll struggle to mission to fund my pvp. I'm trying my best to train large blasters now, as all that's left to fly for me fly as I refuse to use rails is the kronos or vindi being gallante, as i need the web bonus to kill the frigs as my drones will be useless.

I already run 2 alts and pay with RL cash as my isk goes on ships and pvp and pve.

If CCP make pve to hard for me I'll leave. I enjoy low sec pvp but if i can't pve there's no point.

But at least eve will be free of lazytown watchers and eve will just be blobs vs blobs in null, wooo.......

Another interpretation:

CCP must be doing something very right if so many were so completely reliant on HML's.

Then the HML change won't have too great an impact on your overall performance.

Nope being all out drones I'm buggered also as the rats will target and kill my drones.

drone pilots have it worse than HML pilots! much worse.

This simply isn't true you must make up at least 25% of these post with your trash, dogging on HML because they are the only real competition to your projectiles. And yet again you add nothing to the argument you are just here to rag on people and pick fun. And in my book that is what a troll is.



If you can manage to sort through the garbage post ignore everything Lili Lu you will see the valid arguments that have been made, and in my opinion these 5809 post are the reason the HML are not taking as big of a hit as initially proposed.
We are lucky enough to have the DEVs take the time to really sort through these post and make valid determinations and adjustments as needed.

Good god, how many times have I tried to tell you I don't identify as a projectile only user like you identify as a HM only user.

Glad though that you are so mad at my posting, and that you still don't know what a troll is. The truth hurts. And definitions for words I guess are a challenge to you. Sarcasm /= troll Some of you are such easy targets for sarcasm because you identify yourself with a fictional race in a video game.

And as for the subsequent watering down of the nerf adjustments, nbd. I'm hardly butthurt about them. You however still seem butthurt about the whole thing. My 11 mil sp in missiles are still happy with along with the 14 mil in gunnery. Someday you will chill out and have a larger perspective on the game also.