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Speaking of Nanowrimo...

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Vieve Tisserand
Omerta Syndicate
#1 - 2012-10-26 19:20:48 UTC
...are any of you participating this year?
Marbuel
Australian Belt Strippers
#2 - 2012-10-28 13:46:21 UTC
Possibly. Though due to work commitments, it might be a year where I have to give it a miss. I'll see how things are a week in.

Something EVE themed in the works this year?
Vieve Tisserand
Omerta Syndicate
#3 - 2012-10-28 22:45:22 UTC
Marbuel wrote:
Something EVE themed in the works this year?


For me? Ah, no.
CCP Eterne
C C P
C C P Alliance
#4 - 2012-10-29 12:01:04 UTC
I've written 3 novels already. Sadly doesn't look like I'll be able to write one for Nanowrimo this year, though.

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Vieve Tisserand
Omerta Syndicate
#5 - 2012-10-29 15:40:33 UTC
CCP Eterne wrote:
I've written 3 novels already. Sadly doesn't look like I'll be able to write one for Nanowrimo this year, though.


I shouldn't be doing it, either, but I'm at a point where I need a kick in the butt (metaphorically speaking) to work on anything but work related writing.
Saul Elsyn
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#6 - 2012-10-29 20:30:47 UTC
I'm doing it, but sadly it's not EVE related. Awww...

It is Science Fiction though, and space related but more like... 'Horatio Hornblower in Space' then EVE Online.
Anslo
Scope Works
#7 - 2012-11-02 12:57:24 UTC
I don't even know where to start with it. How can you write a novel in one month? Shocked

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CCP Eterne
C C P
C C P Alliance
#8 - 2012-11-02 13:05:08 UTC
Anslo wrote:
I don't even know where to start with it. How can you write a novel in one month? Shocked


If you get really deeply into writing, you can do it. I can easily average 10-15 good pages over an 8 hour period if I really try. Some days I get more, some days I get less. But it takes practice.

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Warde Guildencrantz
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-11-02 13:22:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Warde Guildencrantz
Its pretty easy to write a lengthy story if you have it planned out and know how to do imagery and details in a fleshed out manner. Just messing around on a forum I ended up writing a 100 page story about characters that represented members of the forum.

Each of the 8 chapters of it would have been written over one night.

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Anslo
Scope Works
#10 - 2012-11-02 13:43:35 UTC
What's the length req for the novel anyway? Is it just...case by case? Or is their an industry accepted standard?

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Warde Guildencrantz
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-11-02 15:10:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Warde Guildencrantz
anything more than 1000 is ridiculous but there is really no upper limit, anything less than 150 is getting to be a bit short for being fleshed out completely, those are called novellas (example: Animal Farm by George Orwell is around 111 pages).

Short stories are characterized with being 1-50 pages, but usually no more than 25. Also known as a novelette.

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CCP Eterne
C C P
C C P Alliance
#12 - 2012-11-02 15:37:26 UTC
Pages are a pretty poor way to judge story length. Story length is typically measure by word count, in which 40000 is a somewhat standard but low word count for a novel. I've seen lower get classified as novels, and things longer be classified as novellas.

My three novels are 94337, 83337, and 123703 words. I wrote the first draft of the 83337 word one in roughly the space of a month, though revisions pushed it longer.

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Anslo
Scope Works
#13 - 2012-11-02 16:15:32 UTC
CCP Eterne wrote:
Pages are a pretty poor way to judge story length. Story length is typically measure by word count, in which 40000 is a somewhat standard but low word count for a novel. I've seen lower get classified as novels, and things longer be classified as novellas.

My three novels are 94337, 83337, and 123703 words. I wrote the first draft of the 83337 word one in roughly the space of a month, though revisions pushed it longer.


If I may ask, are you published Eterne? I have so much respect for people who belt out stories and get published. I hope to do it one day hah Smile

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CCP Eterne
C C P
C C P Alliance
#14 - 2012-11-02 17:03:54 UTC
It depends on what you count as published. I've never been paid in real money to have any traditional narratives published, but I've had a few stories in EON and have done freelance mission writing for CCP before I got hired and there's all that Mercury work I did.

But for having a novel published, I never have. I have a difficult time promoting myself and talking about how great my own work is, so my submission letters are often probably too timid to draw much interest. Additionally, I tend to write more experimental stories that are less likely to draw a huge amount of interest.

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Kainotomiu Ronuken
koahisquad
#15 - 2012-11-02 19:50:04 UTC
Anslo wrote:
What's the length req for the novel anyway? Is it just...case by case? Or is their an industry accepted standard?

In the case of NaNoWriMo, it's 50,000 words. Of all the people who started last year, the average was 11,000 words completed.
Vieve Tisserand
Omerta Syndicate
#16 - 2012-11-05 17:20:33 UTC
Saul Elsyn wrote:
I'm doing it, but sadly it's not EVE related. Awww...

It is Science Fiction though, and space related but more like... 'Horatio Hornblower in Space' then EVE Online.


"Horatio Hornblower in Space" sounds much more entertaining than my messed up fantasy novel (which is currently reading like Game of Thrones crossed with Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy and Here Comes Honey Boo Boo -- this is what I get for writing the outline as I go instead of planning things out in advance).
CCP Eterne
C C P
C C P Alliance
#17 - 2012-11-05 17:28:42 UTC
Vieve Tisserand wrote:
"Horatio Hornblower in Space" sounds much more entertaining than my messed up fantasy novel (which is currently reading like Game of Thrones crossed with Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy and Here Comes Honey Boo Boo -- this is what I get for writing the outline as I go instead of planning things out in advance).


It's funny, my first ever attempt at writing a novel was basically done like this. I just made stuff up as I went with no plan. It would up being terrible, I deleted it all, and it no longer exists anywhere that I know of (maybe some unemptied trash bin in some literary agent's office). I don't even count it among the list of things I've written any more.

My first good novel was highly structured and laid out fully in outline beforehand. It wound up being much better. I was like "Yes! This is the way to do it! I need to outline all my novels ahead of time. It helps so much!" I've subsequently rewritten it a few times to improve it and clipped and snipped some, but it always remains on the same basic outline.

Then I wrote my next novel and I didn't structure much out at all. It came out waaay better than my first one, though I wound up writing about 100 pages of it twice, scrapping it entirely, and starting over from scratch with only the basic ideas.

My latest novel, I came up with the characters but no real outline. It wound up being the best of the novels I've written. I've only tweaked it a bit, but haven't done a significant rewrite.

The moral of the story is, I have no idea.

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Khuri
Red Phoenix Rising
#18 - 2012-11-07 13:17:10 UTC
I'm participating for yet another year. Still not eve fiction. Over the years I've done some action, beiefly some fantasy, science fiction 2 years in a row, and now I'm back to action (I've been participating since 2006, faile that year, won every previous year).

For how to write a novel in 30 days, there's no easy answer. Still, I wouldn't say 50000 counts as a novel, november is always a good excuse for staritng a new one though.

As for having something published, I'm tempted to say yes but that would be a slight exaggeration. The first novel I ever completed was my nanowrimo 2007. After lot of delay, I decided to have it published; I already have a publisher and it will be on it's way once I'm done editing it a final time.


As a final thought, could we share nanowrimo nicks by any chance?
I would be Misery1988, send me a nanomail if you're interested - replying to them will be good for procastinating.
Kytayn
Kronos TEchnologies
#19 - 2012-11-12 16:38:10 UTC
Trying... But coming woefully short of the word quotas.

http://nanowrimo.org/en/participants/slowmovingtarget/novels/running-the-river-lethe

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Kytayn
Kronos TEchnologies
#20 - 2012-11-13 20:40:09 UTC
CCP Eterne wrote:
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The moral of the story is, I have no idea.

The moral of your story, I suspect is that prolific practice makes mastery.

That's apparently the catch with us humans. In general, with the exception of a few prodigies, it takes us about ten years to become awesome at anything.

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