Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Many times I would finish a plex or mission with wrecks I don't want to spend the time salvaging. However, I know there are people who would want to. The problem is, for them to join me, they need to be in my fleet and then warp directly to me - something that also requires me to stay there for them.

Instead, I propose beacons. Taking 1 cubic metre of cargo space, they can be deployed in space and appear on overviews in a similar fashion to cynosaural fields. The beacon could be renamed like a can.

Beacons would vanish after 15 minutes, and could be set with a charge to warp to (so that the beacon owner can reap some rewards of what he/she is giving away). If a beacon is given a price, it will immediately vanish when someone warps to it, both to reduce scamming and to increase the return for someone who does pay to use it.

Beacons would take on the state of the owner regarding the overview, exactly like drones. In this way, people can mark players who place incorrect/scamming beacons and choose to not use them in the future.

Other uses of the warp in point would be for things such as requiring assistance in sites/missions, offering miners easy access to mission rocks should the missioner drop a beacon.

Finally, beacons could be set to not allow people with certain standings to warp to them - such as to only allow alliance members to warp to them or spite that guy you set to -10 the other day. (If you couldn't warp to a beacon, perhaps it may not appear on your overview either).

Usual warp in restrictions would of course apply to deadspace regions (land at the gate).

(I understand this would be overlapping a lot of the use given by fleets, but this would allow players to invite others to the location without needing to stick around nor give those joining them access to containers/collection of bounties).

brilliant idea! but the 15 minutes thing seems too short. maybe let it be set to 15/30/45/60.

and the "set charge for "warp to" is a good idea also.. the standings option may be a little more difficult.

as for the multi-pocket missions what about those? the gates between pockets dissappear remember? or would we have to drop 1 beacon in each pocket?

also on top of experation time/price 4 warp2 how about we are able to target and orbit them too (like normal beacons in missions) and also set names for them like..

system scan
beacon name distance price.

[Beacon][ L4 angel bonus room][ 4AU|3,000,000isk.|
Beacon L3 blockade 7.3AU 500,000isk


ps. i tried to post something more cleaner looking but kept telling me NO HTML!!! :P

This is what I was thinking.

Definitely needs adjusting, as I don think it'd work as proposed by OP, but I support the idea 100%

I'd make the duration closer to that of a jetcan, or possibly have variants of different durations. It'd also naturally require a level or 2 in Anchoring.

I'd also like to see different levels of visibility, such as corp, alliance, and public, or based on standings. This can again be different variant beacons, or a setting made by the player who drops it.

Having the beacon display on overview similarly to the player that placed it makes sense. A salvager say, would be wary of warping to a red beacon, but a solo PvPer might see it as an invite to a guaranteed fight.

I'm not sure how I feel about putting a warp-to charge though. Seems easy to abuse, without a whole lot of real benefit.

Still, love the idea and would love to see it implemented to some degree in the future.

People could steal it. I like the idea of something deployable.

Should also work and keep wrecks from de-spawning when you leave a plex. Of course, with a max duration as not to clutter space with infinate wrecks and beacons.

This is for those times where someone planning to just salvage a system doesn't want to take the time to scan the wrecks down using probes? Because that is the current method.

Not sure that making ninja salvaging (I know this isn't technically ninja) easier is a great idea. More salvage that is collected "easily" means more mins/isk injected into the economy with little risk.

On the other hand though - I can see potential shenanigans with this in by not flagging the wrecks as FFA and then catching someone with aggression when they loot/salvage the wrecks. So might be a good idea after all.

this is an awesome idea! and I could finally sell wormholes! would work really well with exploration- you could sell locations!

Ah, see, that's different. That's scanning down the person who is causing the wrecks. Kind of hard to warp to said wrecks if the person who made them has since left. I thought you meant scanning down the wreck itself (done plenty of scanning down the ships).

An excellent and elegant solution! +1 to you sir.