Ships & Modules

I got bored and trained up for a Moros

i literaly have no idea what to do with the skills i've been training for months

i am pr0

according to EVELOPEDIA it still has a drone bay

(CCP need to light a fire under somebody and change that - the public cant)

Actually I was completely unfamiliar with the concept of a tracking dread until I read the rest of the replies in this thread. I stand corrected.

I will amend my previous statement to read:

"Against subcaps they are Lol-useless unless you specifically set them up to kill them. And if you're alone against a gang of sub-caps, you're probably gonna die."

Time for a refit I think....



I keep hoping, but even then I cannot explain the physics required to get it inside an outpost. Does it like fold in half or something to get through the door?

Nah, the nag acts like a b-wing. The whole ship rotates while the crew compartment stays level.

Either that or the station yarns really wide.

Its not just the bonus's from the ships, though admittedly the moros's are pretty nice. It is also that capital blasters have the highest tracking, which means that it is easier to hit for more damage. Add to that that it is doing more damage in the first place, and you start to see why the moros is preferred.

-Arazel

I'm no dread pilot yet...so this is all theory. Maybe I can learn from someone with experience

I understand that turret dreads are top notch as soon as more than one are on the field - positioned correctly. Tracking isn't an issue then. It's not possible to get under the guns of all of them.

But considering small gang...and just assuming it's wise to field a dread in small gang at all...if you only have one dread + some support I could imagine the Phoenix isn't that bad!

If a single turret dread is on the field only, all the opponent has to do is to get under it's guns. Which means what for a dread? 20km? Maybe 15km? Even a Moros shouldn't do any damage then. I cannot imagine that webbing or painting would change this. A dread cannot 'pull range' to reduce transversal.

A missile dread however, does damage in every case. Not much damage against sub caps ofc. But this damage can be increased with support. After all it should be possible to do BS-like damage against subcaps. Considering the strong local tank of a Phoenix (shield = full gank&tank), I get a super tanked BS against other BSs...with an option to do much more damage against stationary and/or big targets like triaged carriers, other sieged dreads and so on.

Wrong? If so, explain plz

There's obviously the point about delayed damage, missiles that can be outrun and whatnot, but the main issue with the concept of a "tracking phoenix" is that damage is reduced based on signature radius and velocity of the target, whereas turret dreads only suffer from poor hit quality due to having their tracking beat. It's a lot easier to compensate for poor tracking by using painters and webs than to compensate for terrible explosion velocity (12m/s) and gigantic explosion radius (2000m2) due to stacking penalties.

An example of this can be seen in tracking titans: if they hit you poorly and they volley damage was reduced by 80%, you were still getting hit for 13k every few seconds. Now that their turret damage was made to also depend on the difference between their signature resolution and the target's signature radius, they behave a little more like the Phoenix's missiles would - and tracking titans are a rare sight since that change.

i keep seeing this and thinking how akward it must be for you to run around in the 70s... ohhh this new internet isnt gonna last more than 6 month i tell you....

The Op said nothing about friends...