Player Features and Ideas Discussion

All i gotta say is that the HAM tengu was freaking crazy on Duality last week.

loved it.

I'm not trolling! I really expect CCP to do that! Everyone I've spoken to agrees with me. Everyone knows Marauders are overpowered and what sort of loser (except yours truly) stays in high-sec? And, what about Missile flight time? Guns hit faster than light in EVE! 25% reduction to ROF is only fair.

Don't you want CCP to be profitable?

You sound like the troll yet again Lili.

Marauders are overpowered. A 50% vs. 100% bonus would equal 6 weapon turrets with reduced ammo usage and they still have their superior T2 resists.

CCP already saw the wisdom of moving l5 out of high-sec, over the objection of many players.

Rats are way too easy now even in WH and Incursions plus their bounties are excessive.

Missile flight time! CCP does strive for balance and no power creep. Besides, guns defy physics in EVE. How can they hit faster than light?

I can't believe you are not all for these changes! Don't you want to see EVE continue. How can it if CCP doesn't make profits?

a month or two later that is .. soz guys but so far nothing you ever say actually happens the way you say it would :D

Nope, he isn't (anymore) https://gate.eveonline.com/Profile/Raivi

Because many agree with what he is trying to do and also he is a CCP employee, not just a player anymore. While he may be the dev representation in this thread I doubt the opinions on HML's are his alone. He does after all have people to whom he must answer for his work.

Aw, poor meowmix. Don't worry, there are plenty of narrow sighted people itt that have been upset with the changes. But, more importantly, don't you read? Here, from the OP:

"In a MMO like Eve balance does change from time to time and skills will not be reimbursed unless their use is being removed from the game. If you believe that these changes make missiles useless then let us know why in as much detail as possible and if we agree the solution won't be to reimburse skills, it will be to adjust the proposal so that missiles are no longer made useless. Heavy missiles were the first medium weapon system I ever trained when I started playing Eve, and I have made excellent use of them through the years so I understand how good it feels to have skills invested in an extremely powerful weapon system. Most people who have been playing the game for a while can name a few times it has felt like their playstyle has been nerfed, because by definition the overpowered areas of the game tend to attract a lot of people. The four most heavily used medium weapons in the game are all Heavy Missile launcher variants, as well as seven of the top eleven. Whenever we need to change something this powerful it will always be painful because so many players will have done the smart thing and flocked to the best game mechanic. If it feels like CCP nerfs you a lot that's just a sign that you're doing it right and getting good at staying on top of the best trends so pat yourself on the back."

Bolded and underlined the parts that explain Fozzie and what he and the his team are doing. Also, I doubt that your lot knows this because for the most part you tend to be newer players in eve, but PL was one of the first alliances to use Drake and Tengu fleets. They are usually on the cutting edge of fleet comps. And also innovators of strategies and fleet comps against those that become popular and widely used like drakes and Tengus became. PL could just as easily fly Drakes and Tengus all the time like others do. They have the skills, probably at higher levels than the others.

As so many more experienced Drake apologists like to point out, there are counters to Drake fleets, but none of those counters have been strong enough to quash the now multi-year phenomenon of Drake fleets. Part of that probably has to do with cost/benefit considerations. And cost is quite comparatively low with drakes as opposed to their counters. Conversely, Tengus do not have such a favorable cost factor. A common component to the two fleet comps though is the HML II. It simply had become patently obvious to CCP that HMLs were so much better than other long range medium weapons systems, and so much more used for that very reason. That is why this nerf is happening. I'm sure PL doesn't give a ****. And certainly since T20, Fozzie, as with all devs, have no desire to be found still favoring their former alliance (which this doesn't anyway in the case of PL).

Though, I doubt any of you freaks will stop with your tinfoil conspiracy theories. They give you too much comfort. But I just thought I'd challenge your cognitive dissonance a little.

Players are upset b/c he's incompetent and irrational in his order for changes within the game... something CCP has a history of "18 months"

His logic for why he's changing them in this order, or to this degree also do not make sense.

And his smug nature and tendency to avoid people who combat his viewpoints rather than face their concerns head on and not with vague offput answers doesn't help either.

If heavy missiles were so OP, how did the cerb, the nighthawk, the Sac, and a **** ton of other ships go so underutilized for all this time. There are literally 2 ships causing the problems, and one of those ships' problems is mostly unrelated to the weapon system itself. How does it make sense to attack the weapon platform when literally 2 out of ~10 ships are the only problems.

Literally, by his definition, Kinetic damage bonus is the weakest in game... so how does a Sac with a 25% RoF bonus.... the 2nd best possible damage bonus in game appear so weak within it's class using HML's.... How does a Cerb with it's double damage bonus look so weak within it's class...etc.

And yeah, this is the same Dev throwing more drones on ships that have no logical connection to drone warfare simply b/c he can't figure out a better way to balance them and he can't justify that maybe not all ships get the same slot count when offensive numbers don't look right.


At this rate, he'll beat Seleene's epic failures.

1 425mm AutoCannon II 1580
2 Heavy Missile Launcher II 1070
3 200mm AutoCannon II 854
4 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II 801
5 425mm Railgun II 734
6 150mm Light AutoCannon II 723
7 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II 547
8 125mm Gatling AutoCannon II 519
9 Light Neutron Blaster II 517
10 Neutron Blaster Cannon II 501
11 Mega Pulse Laser II 475
12 650mm Artillery Cannon II 387
13 720mm Howitzer Artillery II 378
14 Heavy Pulse Laser II 335
15 Dual 180mm AutoCannon II 320
16 Prototype 'Arbalest' Torpedo Launcher 308
17 Heavy Neutron Blaster II 301
18 Light Ion Blaster II 300
19 800mm Repeating Artillery II 288
20 425mm Prototype Gauss Gun 265

This is Right off eve kill NOV 2 2012 5:44 AM est
This is clear cut proof 425mm Autocannon II are grossly Over powered and need to be nerfed right away !!.
http://eve-kill.net/?a=top20

Getting better cruise missiles for next expansion would be pretty awesome, to be honest. PvP will see quite a bunch of ships ressurected