EVE General Discussion

If you can't make billions of isk in high sec with little risk, you're doing something wrong.

Little risk already exists, as does the ability to make billions. You can even make billions of isk really fast in high sec, without ever leaving a station.

Not everyone is flying around shooting red crosses in high sec to make isk guys.

Those that do so can do it in a way that makes the security status of a system irrelevant so long a trade volume and variety are high enough. They never need to undock and as such it's irrelevant what the system security is assuming we ever get conditions that allow non-higsec trade hubs to rival the current hubs.

I think it's possible that the new bounty system could be the saviour of EvE.

The two main complaints about high-sec right now are;
1. Suicide ganking isn't profitable enough for the effort.
2. High-sec players get too much isk for too little reward.

A further complaint is that the game has too few ISK sinks.

With the new bounty system, we will be able to place bounties of any amount on anyone, for any reason. We can force people to participate in PvP even if they pretend they don't want to. We can make ganking profitable. Even if the profits will be small (20m bounty from a Mackinaw according to Petrus Blackshell in this thread https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2067812#post2067812 ), it might be worth it just for the tears, plus loot and salvage.

Essentially, for every 20m ISK bounty you place on a miner, that miner will lose 200m isk when he is ganked. This makes it seem like high-sec mining is going to become quite a risky business and result in a lot of carebears losing a lot of ISK to gankers who just want to see them QQ.

So where does the ISK sink part come in? Well, the bounty system itself is an ISK sink. As people keep piling bounties on the miners, the bounties get higher and higher. A miner with a 200m bounty is good for 10 ganks, and what happens when a carebear miner is ganked too many times? He quits EvE, taking his bounty with him.

Every time a carebear quits EvE, they are removing ISK from the economy, thus creating the ISK sink the game needs.

It seems to me that with the new bounty system, we can save EvE by forcing players to quit with relentless ganking. The higher the bounties, the more likely they are to quit and remove those high bounties from the economy when they do.

This is why I think the new bounty system, with the proper player initiative, could save EvE. Alternatively, it could also lead to the fiery death of EvE.

OK, I'll bite. How many are doing this? I need stats from CCP.

There are a lot of ways to make hundreds of billions in highsec. The first rule of making ISK is you go where the money is. Virtually all of the money is in empire. I don't think anyone would dispute that. Once you establish that fact, it's just a matter of finding your angle. I know of many, I'm good at few. Really, you only need one.

They consent to PVP every time they sell their minerals, or the goods it produces at a station to a playing character.

Actually, I personally started playing at the insistence of a personal friend who told me little more than that it was a space game. I literally managed to be generally unaware of and unaffected by ship to ship PvP for most of the first year of play.

The beariest carebeariest care bear of all bears is at best, a shady, selfish, dirty arms dealer.

No one that plays this game is innocent. People that profit off of things that in turn get used to blow up others cannot claim ignorance as a defense for their playstyle.

Everything in eve is Verse. Other. Players on some level.