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Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
#21 - 2012-11-01 20:30:11 UTC
Dave stark wrote:

people don't afk mine by choice.

No? Have a rethink.

A lot of people mine because they CAN go AFK. That's sorta the point.

"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#22 - 2012-11-01 20:30:29 UTC
Dave stark
#23 - 2012-11-01 20:33:10 UTC
Touval Lysander wrote:
Dave stark wrote:

people don't afk mine by choice.

No? Have a rethink.

A lot of people mine because they CAN go AFK. That's sorta the point.


and?

that doesn't change the fact that even being at the keyboard doesn't require any interaction so even some one at the keyboard will still get modules turned off and drones redocked.

hence, your idea is bad. also, you should feel bad.
Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
#24 - 2012-11-01 20:36:42 UTC
Tippia wrote:
All that work for nothing.

Got it. Didn't know it was around.

As an aside. Ya sorta think if you need an app to stop the saver and lock, then just turn the saver and locking off. I call it "duh software". You have to turn the duh software off to lock the PC, may as well just lock the PC.

"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
#25 - 2012-11-01 20:40:04 UTC
Dave stark wrote:
Touval Lysander wrote:
Dave stark wrote:

people don't afk mine by choice.

No? Have a rethink.

A lot of people mine because they CAN go AFK. That's sorta the point.


and?

that doesn't change the fact that even being at the keyboard doesn't require any interaction so even some one at the keyboard will still get modules turned off and drones redocked.

hence, your idea is bad. also, you should feel bad.

I feel terribad.

I had NO IDEA so many people were HAPPY to have AFK as a feature of Eve given the number "you are AFK and you must die" posts I see. Blink

I promise I will probably never do it again.

"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
Maggeridon Thoraz
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#26 - 2012-11-01 20:40:22 UTC
may i quoute evenews :

"The nullsec player who stops doing what they’re doing just because some invisible ship is sitting in system, they should spend less time complaining, and more time feeling ashamed of themselves."
Rroff
Antagonistic Tendencies
#27 - 2012-11-01 20:43:57 UTC
Pointless thread? if your trying to stealth nerf afk cloakers you do realise they'd just program a macro on their keyboard (lot of gamers use keyboards with macro capabilities) to defeat the afk detection. (or just use a software macro).
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#28 - 2012-11-01 20:44:13 UTC
Touval Lysander wrote:
Got it. Didn't know it was around.

As an aside. Ya sorta think if you need an app to stop the saver and lock, then just turn the saver and locking off. I call it "duh software". You have to turn the duh software off to lock the PC, may as well just lock the PC.
Sometimes, those things are under administrator control and no matter how often you explain to IT that it looks bad when the screen goes black in the middle of your presentation in front of WealthyCustomer LLC™, they just refuse to relax the restrictions…

…and other times, you don't want to alter the state of the system since it would be ruin important forensic evidence, so you slap something similar into the closest USB slot and wait for someone to come along and rip the whole thing apart. That's usually more of a hardware solution, though.
BoSau Hotim
Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
#29 - 2012-11-01 20:44:36 UTC
Touval Lysander wrote:
Dave stark wrote:

people don't afk mine by choice.

No? Have a rethink.

A lot of people mine because they CAN go AFK. That's sorta the point.



Who cares if they go afk for a bit??? Why does it affect anyone??? So what if they want to help their kids with homework, surf the web, get some work done while they are also mining.. I'ts called multi-tasking and I don't care!!!! It does not affect me ONE BIT. In fact it makes them a better gank target.

Why would afk mining bother anyone? There they are. A hulk mining away - I dont' care if they are present at their pc or not, why do you care about it so much Touval?

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Dave stark
#30 - 2012-11-01 20:44:54 UTC
Touval Lysander wrote:
Dave stark wrote:
Touval Lysander wrote:
Dave stark wrote:

people don't afk mine by choice.

No? Have a rethink.

A lot of people mine because they CAN go AFK. That's sorta the point.


and?

that doesn't change the fact that even being at the keyboard doesn't require any interaction so even some one at the keyboard will still get modules turned off and drones redocked.

hence, your idea is bad. also, you should feel bad.

I feel terribad.

I had NO IDEA so many people were HAPPY to have AFK as a feature of Eve given the number "you are AFK and you must die" posts I see. Blink

I promise I will probably never do it again.


it has nothing to do with being happy with it. having said that; if i couldn't go afk while mining i wouldn't mine. the isk/hour wouldn't be worth it if i couldn't go and do something else while mining. i don't mind pausing my tv every few mins to tab back to eve to unload cargo and change targets, that's about as much as i'm willing to do for mining's **** poor isk/hour though.

your idea is terrible and badly thought out because you've never either encountered, emulated, or even tried to understand the "problem" you're trying to fix.
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#31 - 2012-11-01 20:45:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Jack Miton
Alice Saki wrote:
Stealth Nerf Cloaky Afk Thead ^_^


no, not stealth at all, just blatant.
also just as stupid as all the other ones.

in fact, it's even stupider since 95% of people know how to make a macro hit a key every 4 min....

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Dave stark
#32 - 2012-11-01 20:46:26 UTC
BoSau Hotim wrote:
Touval Lysander wrote:
Dave stark wrote:

people don't afk mine by choice.

No? Have a rethink.

A lot of people mine because they CAN go AFK. That's sorta the point.



Who cares if they go afk for a bit??? Why does it affect anyone??? So what if they want to help their kids with homework, surf the web, get some work done while they are also mining.. I'ts called multi-tasking and I don't care!!!! It does not affect me ONE BIT. In fact it makes them a better gank target.

Why would afk mining bother anyone? There they are. A hulk mining away - I dont' care if they are present at their pc or not, why do you care about it so much Touval?


the irony is, if he gets his way and players like me stop mining semi afk because the isk simply isn't worth the effort any more, prices will go up and then he'll be back here complaining about ship prices.
Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
#33 - 2012-11-01 20:48:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Touval Lysander
Dave stark wrote:
Touval Lysander wrote:
Dave stark wrote:
Touval Lysander wrote:
Dave stark wrote:

people don't afk mine by choice.

No? Have a rethink.

A lot of people mine because they CAN go AFK. That's sorta the point.


and?

that doesn't change the fact that even being at the keyboard doesn't require any interaction so even some one at the keyboard will still get modules turned off and drones redocked.

hence, your idea is bad. also, you should feel bad.

I feel terribad.

I had NO IDEA so many people were HAPPY to have AFK as a feature of Eve given the number "you are AFK and you must die" posts I see. Blink

I promise I will probably never do it again.


it has nothing to do with being happy with it. having said that; if i couldn't go afk while mining i wouldn't mine. the isk/hour wouldn't be worth it if i couldn't go and do something else while mining. i don't mind pausing my tv every few mins to tab back to eve to unload cargo and change targets, that's about as much as i'm willing to do for mining's **** poor isk/hour though.

your idea is terrible and badly thought out because you've never either encountered, emulated, or even tried to understand the "problem" you're trying to fix.

Can someone please explain the underlined to this man. He's not listening to me...

(pssst..... I have been an AFK cloaker, an AFK miner, an AFK missioner. For a long time...)

"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
Dave stark
#34 - 2012-11-01 20:51:00 UTC
Touval Lysander wrote:
(pssst..... I have been an AFK cloaker, an AFK miner, an AFK missioner. For a long time...)


i doubt it, given how bad your initial idea was.
Robert De'Arneth
#35 - 2012-11-01 20:51:28 UTC
sure, he means he is sorry he made this post. and you should move onto a nerf high sec thread.


Happy to help.

I'm a nerd, you can check my stats!! Skilling Int/Mem at 45 sp per minute is how I mack!     I'm like a lapdog, all bark no bite. 
Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
#36 - 2012-11-01 21:02:11 UTC
Robert De'Arneth wrote:
sure, he means he is sorry he made this post. and you should move onto a nerf high sec thread.

Happy to help.

Just don't use the term AFK in those threads anymore mmmmm k....

Everyone is happy with AFK.

Me too. Blink

"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
#37 - 2012-11-01 21:06:27 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Touval Lysander wrote:
Got it. Didn't know it was around.
As an aside. Ya sorta think if you need an app to stop the saver and lock, then just turn the saver and locking off. I call it "duh software". You have to turn the duh software off to lock the PC, may as well just lock the PC.
Sometimes, those things are under administrator control and no matter how often you explain to IT that it looks bad when the screen goes black in the middle of your presentation in front of WealthyCustomer LLC™, they just refuse to relax the restrictions…

I used to teach IT many years back and some of the classes were beginners. I remember trying to explain to college admin that I needed access to screen backgrounds etc. to teach how it was done.

"You can't do that" I was told, "it will make all the machines look different". Seriously...

"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#38 - 2012-11-01 21:06:56 UTC
Imagine what whining will happen when people start 'afk'ing on your grid and then suddenly as soon as you resume mining or ratting they are magically BACK at their keyboard.

Essentially you are asking for even more free intel from the client when it's CCP's intention to provide less.

This is a poorly proposed 'idea' and has been discussed in far more depth in the past. Perhaps in future you could spend a few minutes doing some rudimentary research into the topic and then posting any additional contribution you have in the correct place (features and ideas) rather than making yet another unhelpful thread in Eve general.

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Tarvos Telesto
Blood Fanatics
#39 - 2012-11-01 21:08:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Tarvos Telesto
I have right to be afk 24/7 , somtime im loged to game but my client is minimized hours long, or just need brak form EvE, playing diablo3, WOT, other mmo, waching informative media sites like BBC, CNN etc, and my game is minimized.

Btw I can be 24/7 afk sitting in stealth ship where null bears farm, but i dont have needs to do it, and i got better thing to do.

Afk is legit, espetialy EvE veterans do a lot afk, while new players are mostly online because here a lot fun and a lot stuf to discovery while players start own adventure with EvE.

EvE isn't game, its style of living.
Ginger Barbarella
#40 - 2012-11-01 21:11:37 UTC
Wacktopia wrote:
So basically an anti AFK cloaker thread?


A day doesn't go by that I'm not fascinated with people here so damned determined to stick their nose in other people's business. I'd say I don't get it, but it makes perfect sense to me. Me, I live my life and don't give a crap about what other people do. But others here (as evidenced on just about every game platform) have this driving need to assert some kind of control over other people's lives.

There's a name (dare I say "diagnosis"?) for that... Blink

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