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blood stained stars and sansha nation incursion
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Nikki VanSaar
#1 - 2012-11-01 08:05:20 UTC
Hello,

I'am trying to finish the blood stained stars and i need to kill Dagan but there is a sansha nation incursion in the system and i only do a third of my usual dps with my catalyst (reduced damage because of the incursion).

Could you tell me how long the incursion is going to stay because i will not be able to kill the guy while it occurs.

Thanks
Hazen Koraka
HK Enterprises
#2 - 2012-11-01 08:32:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Hazen Koraka
As long as you don't warp to any of the static beacons in that system, the incursion won't massively affect you - there may be some minor detrimental effects like reduction of shield/armor effectiveness, and a 50% cut on bounties. I guess though it would be wiser to wait few days until the incursion is over though. 1/3 of the damage? Are the penaties that high?

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Nikki VanSaar
#3 - 2012-11-01 08:35:32 UTC
Thanks for the response.

Well ****

I guess i will run mission for another agent for a few days. Luckily the epic arc missons don't expire.
Hazen Koraka
HK Enterprises
#4 - 2012-11-01 08:38:32 UTC
Ahhh sorry, just re-read your original post, you are on Dagan, which is particularly difficult when there isn't an incursion (you need around 150dps to break his tank). I thought you were only just starting the arc, which wouldn't be a major issue with an incursion.

Incursions normally last about 3-4 days I'd say, but it depends a lot on the type of incursion and how many peeps are running and clearing it (I have no experience with running excursions - somene may have more accurate info).

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Max Godsnottlingson
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2012-11-01 09:36:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Max Godsnottlingson
Nikki VanSaar wrote:
Hello,

I'am trying to finish the blood stained stars and i need to kill Dagan but there is a sansha nation incursion in the system and i only do a third of my usual dps with my catalyst (reduced damage because of the incursion).

Could you tell me how long the incursion is going to stay because i will not be able to kill the guy while it occurs.

Thanks


The other thing to try, is putting out a call in Local and doing it as a group. I am sure that there will be others in the same position as you, or some passing vet who will lend a hand for a little while. Hell, give me a call in game and I will mosey on over and help out.

Dagon is hard enough on normal cercumstances, but with an Incursion you'll not solo him, but three-four pilots should still be able to take him. One of the reasons that he is so tough, is to get new players used to the idea, and systems of ganging up and working as a team.
Nikki VanSaar
#6 - 2012-11-01 10:03:38 UTC
Thanks for the advice but I have already changed system.

I forgot this is a MMO. I will definitely try to find other people when i will come back.
Abdiel Kavash
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-11-01 12:23:15 UTC
Nikki VanSaar wrote:
I forgot this is a MMO. I will definitely try to find other people when i will come back.


Very good thinking. Even without an incursion, this mission is very difficult to do solo at your skill level (assuming you started the arc right after your starting agents). It's supposed to teach you exactly this: EVE has a very strong focus on multiplayer. In the long term you will definitely want to find other people to play with, perhaps a corporation, because there is only so much you can accomplish on your own.
Plaude Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2012-11-01 12:24:01 UTC
Hazen Koraka wrote:
Ahhh sorry, just re-read your original post, you are on Dagan, which is particularly difficult when there isn't an incursion (you need around 150dps to break his tank). I thought you were only just starting the arc, which wouldn't be a major issue with an incursion.

Incursions normally last about 3-4 days I'd say, but it depends a lot on the type of incursion and how many peeps are running and clearing it (I have no experience with running excursions - somene may have more accurate info).

When I killed Dagan, 150dps was nowhere near enough ot break his tank. I had 212dps on my ship, and even that was only barely enough to break through his shields.

As for the Incursions, they last for a week, unless someone kills the mothership in that incursion before it expires. I know that TVP (one of the big incursion-groups) usually only kills motherships when the Incursion goes into "Withdrawing"-state, which means there's less than 24 hours left until the incursion disappears anyway.

I don't know if anyone are doing the incursion in the system where the OP has to kill Dagan. If not, it'll be better for the OP to just wait until the Incursion leaves the area.

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Hazen Koraka
HK Enterprises
#9 - 2012-11-01 13:15:27 UTC
Plaude Pollard wrote:

When I killed Dagan, 150dps was nowhere near enough ot break his tank. I had 212dps on my ship, and even that was only barely enough to break through his shields.



Yeah 150 dps I think is the theoretical minimum, and it will take ages to grind through it at that rate. I think it's doable with about 180 ( I recently reran the epic arc for the second time, this time in my harpy, and though it still wasn't easy, he did go down quite quick - I think I was using antimatter S ammo and pumping out around 180 dps).

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Aptenodytes
Reckless Abandon
#10 - 2012-11-01 14:28:58 UTC
I just did it, using a Retribution with meta 4 dual light pulses, 4 HS II and multifrequency crystals. I could only just break his tank, it took ages. It would go down to zero, I would take off a bit of armour, then his shield would climb back up to 50% again. Not only is it a hard tank but a frustrating one, just when you think you're breaking it, it boosts right back up..

Unless you can put out a lot of DPS, I would definitely get help on this one.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#11 - 2012-11-01 18:13:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Dagan is an absolute pig solo, when you decide to give him another go you'll definitely need help even when the incursion has gone. His tank can take some beating even in a ship that can pack enough gank to take on lvl 3 missions, if only he dropped the mods required to achieve it Lol

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#12 - 2012-11-01 21:09:03 UTC
Aptenodytes wrote:
I just did it, using a Retribution with meta 4 dual light pulses, 4 HS II and multifrequency crystals. I could only just break his tank, it took ages. It would go down to zero, I would take off a bit of armour, then his shield would climb back up to 50% again. Not only is it a hard tank but a frustrating one, just when you think you're breaking it, it boosts right back up..

Unless you can put out a lot of DPS, I would definitely get help on this one.

You don't need high DPS so much as stamina. Dagan has limited capacitor, and it can take a while to burn that down. Once his cap is gone, he's easy.