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Miners Unite to Fight the New Order!

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#621 - 2012-11-01 01:30:45 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Every good story/game needs a bad guy, in Eve that bad guy is the GSF and they, as an organisation, fulfil that role with gusto and enthusiasm, if a little self-depreciation. They can't be as bad at Eve as they say they are, either that or everybody else is even worse at it than they are.

The longer I play the more I find myself agreeing with them, and wishing that I was having even 1/8 of the fun they are being the bad guys.

Generally speaking, it's considered to be the case that the latter case is true. Because sheesh, jumping your titan instead of bridging and warping from the VFK beacon to the station unscouted with hostiles in local, or being killed by Zed Mike or getting hotdropped in an anomaly by 5 Nyxes can hardly be considered "capable at EVE".

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ConranAntoni
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#622 - 2012-11-01 01:31:53 UTC
Never stop bumping miners

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#623 - 2012-11-01 01:49:43 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:

Generally speaking, it's considered to be the case that the latter case is true. Because sheesh, jumping your titan instead of bridging and warping from the VFK beacon to the station unscouted with hostiles in local, or being killed by Zed Mike or getting hotdropped in an anomaly by 5 Nyxes can hardly be considered "capable at EVE".


lol so GSF are really bad at Eve, yet they're still one of the most influential bodies in the game, sounds like politics to me P

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Natasha Liao
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#624 - 2012-11-01 02:10:14 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
I keep forgetting that this forum has no autosarcasm function, the post was entirely tongue in cheek.

Every good story/game needs a bad guy, in Eve that bad guy is the GSF and they, as an organisation, fulfil that role with gusto and enthusiasm, if a little self-depreciation. They can't be as bad at Eve as they say they are, either that or everybody else is even worse at it than they are.

The longer I play the more I find myself agreeing with them, and wishing that I was having even 1/8 of the fun they are being the bad guys.

This ^^. Good Guys/Bad Guys - who's to judge. But ... they are having fun in the game. "Fun" is also a subjective term though. ;-)

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#625 - 2012-11-01 04:54:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Alavaria Fera
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:

Generally speaking, it's considered to be the case that the latter case is true. Because sheesh, jumping your titan instead of bridging and warping from the VFK beacon to the station unscouted with hostiles in local, or being killed by Zed Mike or getting hotdropped in an anomaly by 5 Nyxes can hardly be considered "capable at EVE".

lol so GSF are really bad at Eve, yet they're still one of the most influential bodies in the game, sounds like politics to me P

I direct you to the TheMittani.com article which is relevant.

Also, pretty hilarious. Added link just in case some others were too lazy to look. Besides, if you feel bad about clicking it Lol

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#626 - 2012-11-01 05:11:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
hah the Malconis article, it's a really good read and an interesting insight into the GSF, now we need someone to do one on TEST because like it or not they are currently the biggest single corp in game. Although as a single coherent and stable entity I believe RvB comes pretty damn close.

Mittens.com needs more articles of this calibre, I'm not saying that the articles aren't good, on the whole they are, but more articles from respected bloggers and posters would be good. Guest articles from the likes of Akita T (CCP Y U NO QEN NO MORE?) & Mangala Solaris (ganknights are always amusing as GSF & TEST well know) etc would certainly garner attention from the likes of myself.

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Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#627 - 2012-11-01 05:15:20 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:

Generally speaking, it's considered to be the case that the latter case is true. Because sheesh, jumping your titan instead of bridging and warping from the VFK beacon to the station unscouted with hostiles in local, or being killed by Zed Mike or getting hotdropped in an anomaly by 5 Nyxes can hardly be considered "capable at EVE".

lol so GSF are really bad at Eve, yet they're still one of the most influential bodies in the game, sounds like politics to me P

I direct you to the TheMittani.com article which is relevant.

Also, pretty hilarious. Added link just in case some others were too lazy to look. Besides, if you feel bad about clicking it Lol


That article was totally worth the time to read. An interesting perspective.
CCP Eterne
C C P
C C P Alliance
#628 - 2012-11-01 09:16:11 UTC
Had to delete some pretty obvious trolling in the thread. Keep things constructive.

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Tomo Shihari
Doomheim
#629 - 2013-01-06 02:34:16 UTC
If being AFK is such a bad thing in EVE then I think that the game mechanics should be changed to encourage people not to be away from their keyboards. If no activity happens after say 30 seconds your ship auto destructs. That would put an end to all these crazy people who think that this is just a game. And not just miners but everyone. This is EVE after all. Everyone verses everyone. Not Everyone verses Exhumers.
Ivy Romanova
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#630 - 2013-01-06 02:45:03 UTC
Pan Miller wrote:
If you haven't been personally harassed by the "New Order" you have most likely heard of them. They are bullies. I have tried speaking with them and filing petitions, it would seem that neither these "agents" or the GM's can be reasoned with. I have personally spoken with James 315 and can testify that he's not even as "compassionate" and "reasonable" as he makes himself seem in his stupid blog. He is a hateful man who despises miners on his own bigoted principle. He just can't stand the fact that we don't want to play with him, or his way, I think it stems from some kind of real life loneliness. In addition to that, it would seem that many changes are coming with the new expansion that may make it even harder to be left alone to mine in peace.

We cannot sit idly by while they ruin our game! Every petition filed is answered with a blow-off statement or this from his blog post

"Hello,

Bumping miners is not against the rules. If you keep your mining ship moving while you mine (by orbiting your target for example) then the bumper will probably miss you."

This is complete B&%% S&*#!

I have been in contact with many industrialists and we are pooling our resources to higher mercs to deal with them. I would like to take this opportunity to ask for any donations our wealthy fellow industrialists are willing to offer. Our only hope is to fight fire with fire. This character doesn't have many combat skills, but I'm looking into acquiring a fighter, I advise you to do the same.

DEATH TO THE NEW ORDER!


Just mine in null or something.
Better yet, learn to pvp , mining is not suppose to be a full time profession

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Captain Death1
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#631 - 2013-01-06 03:37:12 UTC
10 year old game who cares what gos on in game get over it miner bumping lol high sec has won the war the miner bumping is just bitter losers from null on there alts


all you have to do is keep high sec 71% players no one will care about that
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#632 - 2013-01-06 03:58:41 UTC
Captain Death1 wrote:
10 year old game who cares what gos on in game get over it miner bumping lol high sec has won the war the miner bumping is just bitter losers from null on there alts


all you have to do is keep high sec 71% players no one will care about that


WTS punctuation marks and lessons in grammar.

The hisec population may well cover 70% of all players, but a sizeable portion of that 70% is actually hisec alts of people in nullsec.

As for the bumping, people are having fun with it and fun is why people play games.

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Celly Smunt
Neutin Local LLC
#633 - 2013-01-06 04:52:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Celly S
NEONOVUS wrote:
So why do members of the new order hide in npc corps?
Should not they wear their conviction on their chest and fly high the colors of progress?
Do they think that by skulking about amongst unwashed masses their message shall be heard?
I say NO!
Their tactics of bumping paint themselves clearly as washed up fighters to timid to even suicide gank a miner.
If they were so prgogressive and forward thinking, they should cleanse New Eden with Artillery and blaster.
With a smile on their face and the support and cheering of all.
But they do not.
They run, they cower in npc corps, they refuse to settle as men or even as a woman.
They scurry as vermin, nipping at ankles, and spreading rot and decay.


and miners cry rivers of tears in their honor...

:P

Let me further add to this post.
Neo?, nothing aimed at you of course, just after the tons of threads about the same thing, there's no better way to describe it.
I do however agree with you wholeheartedly, they should put themselves at risk by being in the same corp (a deccable one) they should have to fly looking over their shoulders but not in fear of Concord, rather in fear of players who are actually fed up with it and ready to give them a taste of "Retribution"

See what I did there? :)

I mine on my main accounts and to date I have never had a successful gank attempt against one of my ships while mining, one dude got close though, so props for that, but dude was unsuccessful.

neway, I had more, but I just logged into my other newbie toon and his small tractor beam is loaded with core scanner probes... 4 of them to be exact and I can drag them into my hangar increasing my total (originally 10) to 18 on the the second day of free probes...

o/

I better go petition.

BBL

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DSpite Culhach
#634 - 2013-01-06 06:14:33 UTC
Most game companies make their games so that if players so wish, they can play the game content so that other players will not be able to interfere with it. mostly this stops "griefers" that are not playing the game to get further into it, but to stop you from getting further into it.

CCP is not one of those, and the EVE universe was not set up that way.

A lot of mechanics don't make sense (like small ships bumping something 100 times their mass) but then EVE is so patchwork that half the stuff that gets added ends up with players finding an unintended use for it.

I apparently have no idea what I'm doing.