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Re: colorblindness: I'm not fully colorblind, but my vision is very poor. It's corrected to the point where in daily life I don't notice how bad it is because my vision has slowly deteriorated for over a decade and I've come up with a lot of compensatory mechanisms, but every so often something comes up that I just can't compensate for. Color contrast is one of them.

A lot of people think that red and black contrast beautifully! (I'm looking at you, goths) This is completely and utterly not so. To me, red on black means that I have to stop paying attention to everything else and look at it hard to figure out where one begins and the other ends. When I checked the new targeting system on Duality, it's a lot better than it was in the WIP picture. It's outlined and it has tickmarks, and that's perfect. I can now eyeball health as a percentage without having to think about it. My own ship's health bars are less of an issue because it's bigger, it's central, it has some outlining, and I don't have to look around anything -- it's all stacked on top of each other. I keep my targets in my peripheral vision so I can focus on my HUD.

Personally, I'd like to see shields going clockwise from 8 to 12 o'clock, armor from 12 to 4, and hull from 4 to 8. This is really intuitive for me, if we have to go with circles (and I assume we do). Circles do space out the targets more, so you have to look around the ship icon for all your information instead of it being grouped below it. You can no longer look across a horizontal line and compare health bars and nothing else. Now that nice grouping is dedicated to the name of the pilot and corp and alliance and all that (which, on Duality, is in a lower contrast font than it was. Please at least make the pilot name have better contrast). I use very few circular gauges in my life, and when I do, they go clockwise starting at about 8 or 9 o'clock.

I now focus a lot more on the ship icon when I'm trying to gauge health because I'm looking at its circumference, which makes it feel bloated. I'm sure I'll tune it out eventually, but the ship icons used to be unobtrusive. The information they contain is way, way low on my priority list because I almost never assign my offensive modules based on "this tiny square has a Blackbird-shaped blob in it and the background is blue". I assign targets based on "this dude is in a Falcon and I see his name under a blue box that just appeared because I just targeted him! Death to Falcons!"

I'm wondering how long Eve will be unplayable after deploying so many changes at once.
It will be huge mess, but we will see.

While suggesting the game will be unplayable is probably slightly over-the-top, it is not by much. Many parts of the game badly broken, with huge holes to exploit, I have no doubt.

As I was trying to say in the Duality channel, the problem is CCP is introducing way too many moving parts at once.
We are facing 3 new or completely overhauled concepts, plus an FW overhaul, plus a new HUD, plus new targeting, plus 40 ship hulls overhauled, and that is only the stuff I can think of.

Do you seriously believe, even if all the testers on Duality are "dedicated", as you commented there, do you seriously believe they can catch every unforseen circumstance of ALL these changes blending together, especially in such short windows for testing. And that does not even include the impact of Dust.

So after all the negative feed-back you are still pushing through with the circle UI crap just like you did with the inventory. You say that you need to change some of the old codding and this is the main reason why you change the UI, well rewrite the code, but make the targeting UI squared again. Why do you insist on those stupid circles? Did your research team came to the conclusion that under-age and below average IQ players like shiny, roundy and sparkling things?

Well done Crowd Control Productions!
"Stay the course, we have done this many times before." - Hilmar Veigar Pétursson

I think Salpun's statement went right over your head. You're stating that EVE will be unplayable, yet you've not even tried the new system on Duality. He wasn't asking you to beta test, but to test and see if it was unplayable, instead of simply talking trash.

I also like to add some more things


1) the brackets will look better if they are looking more like the main control bar that indicates shield/armor/ of the ship that I am using, a ring with in a ring looking more like the Seagate logo and with in the ring you see the ship.


2) incoming damage type indicator. at the left of the control bar indicator you know that thing that tells you your stats of your ship shields and armor ,somewhere next to auto pilot add four bars representing the 4 elements of damage with color and as you get pounded the appropriate damage type races the appropriate bar according to the damage amount , this bars will retain the history of a selected number of shots and refresh. so it will look like the bars you see representing the sound when you play music.

Why not have

blue/red for shields

yellow/red for armor

and the current grey/red for structure?

(I went by the colors of the visual repair/hardening effects BTW)

..in combination with your plans....

...one tiny UI-change that would be EXTREMELY helpful is an option to display that "mousover-info" on ships ALWAYS for ALL ships. (Players can already select the info they want, e.g. Shiptype only, all it needs is another checkbox. The overview has to load all the information anyways so i imagine this does not cause any more traffic.)

Especially for small gangs and solo pilots this tiny change would GREATLY improve information flow and immersion. For larger fleets that target by overview only or when just running for 20 jumps thru hisec traffic one can simply turn it off.

Thanks.

Just FYI, we should have some information for you soon about our progress and stuff.

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