Crime & Punishment

It would be very nice to have some content in losec that would be accessible by being a -10. As it stands now CCP says we could be doing this: http://www.eveonline.com/sandbox/pirate/

But there are no gameplay elements to really be a pirate. We get punished because we are too lazy to rat up our secstatus, that is the only thing that makes us pirates.

Opportunity PvP is good description.
It's not true there is no ISK to be made from piracy. Ransoms if done right can make you hundreads of million but ppl have to be sure you will honor them. For me its 250m ISk this week just from ransoming Skiff mining at belt in Hrondedir and 2 Pods.

"Pirates are just businessmen... with guns, we redistribute the wealth, from your wallet, into ours, much like any businessman with any savvy."
- Kane Rizzel

Anyways just look what kind of ships pirates fly thease days: Tech 3, Machariels, Vindicators and other multibillions ships. How do you think from where ISks for that came from? Lv4's? No... we know our profession welland we are good at it.

That would be fun.
Any unaffiliated pilots get pirate lp

Pirates already get the best reward in that we get to be pirates.

Copy+pasting my response from the Assembly Hall thread.

As a lifelong pirate, I would support a system like this if it was endorsed by NPC pirates rather than local FW. The prominent regional pirate faction makes more sense to hand out rewards for killing people (disruption lawful activity and such), and this would mean such a reward system would not be restricted to FW areas. Part of the appeal of being a criminal is the complete lack of affiliation with any sort of governmental organization, and I don't know how many pirates would be willing to compromise that to become glorified FW conscripts.

After giving it some thought, I think that the standing requirement would not be a bad thing if pirate standings would be gained through killing capsuleers. Perhaps if a certain regional pirate faction required a high enough standing to get rewarded for PVP, you had to destroy so many ships to become eligible for whatever the rewards are, and then only after reaching that standing threshold, do you receive tangible benefits to being a pirate.

That's the gist of what I'm saying

I think the pirate faction LP's are a great idea and in fact would make sense on many levels...why wouldnt/shouldnt the pirate factions reward pilots for helping to further their cause? You could even incorporate incursions into areas based on pirate LP's being given out, if a lowsec area becomes a haven for player pirates allow it to become an incursion area with "pirate" players getting to fight on the side of the incursion. Perhaps this would help to bring "anti-pirate" or "vigilante" types corps into lowsec. Everybody wins YARR

we should be able to bribe gate guns because we're pirates and we've tanked them for years

I agree, it's not at all a stretch to put pirate outposts in low sec for players to cash in at. After all, missions take place at such pirate holdouts all the time, and in high sec no less.

However, I think in order to be eligible for 'pirate rewards,' a player should HAVE to be -5 sec or lower It proves your dedication to the causing of mayhem and criminal activity, and it would be nice for the sec status system to actually mean something beyond "You can't go here because CCP says you shouldn't be able to." This would also make it so that the pirate rewards couldn't be simply farmed without repercussion.

Historicly, piracy was never something common. Nor was it something that could be considered overly successful. You want it to be common and successful. I understand that from a gameplay perspective, you wish to have this, but let's look at a few important problems with this.

1. If the money is too good, lowsec just becomes the hive of scum and villany that everyone else avoids, unless they want a fight. This helps nobody, in fact it hurts the game. We want more pve players to move in to lowsec, and pirates want em fat and sloppy. LP awards and similar rewards for being a pirate are great ideas, but you're going to have to sacrifice some isk for that. Otherwise, there will be more pirates than anyone else. And that's not piracy.

2. Part of the allure of lowsec is the fact that it's 90% empty. I can fly for several jumps of some of it and run exploration sites unhindered. This isn't bad, piracy should be a bit of a shock, and if I always expected it, I'd be alert enough to avoid it.

3. Piracy isn't supposed to be good money, it's supposed to be easy money. Piracy never paid well, it just paid much better than a working mans wage. If you did well, you could have the riches of the nobles (the lower part of the upper class). If it's good money, piracy feeds on itself and not other players.

4. NPCs should not be immune to piracy. Pirates did not just attack warships (in fact the almost exclusively avoided them). Pirates loved fat merchants who surrendered their cargo the moment a warning shot was fired.

5. Solo frigate combat can only be fun for so long...I have to say, you might be safer in a frigate, but if you want to make isk like a real pirate, killing other pirates in frigates isn't what you're after.

6. You really are better in a gate camp...not a long one, and not a strict heavy one. Play loose and catch the fat merchants doing their PI, or the Exploration characters in their t2 or t3 hulls, this is where the money should be...piracy

Edit: Spending LPs for items would require isk as well, just to keep it from being too lucrative. Also, spending them for a temporary sentry gun deactivation sounds pretty neat, but I say deactivation, not a "these guns ignore YOUR transgressions only"