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serras bang
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-10-31 19:58:29 UTC
if you all dont know about the caldari missles nerfs that are proposed to come in winter then i invite you to take a trip to go see them.

anyway youll notice the massive nerfing on the caldari ships i say is these changes go through caldari ships should be removed from the game sign here if you feel the same way.
Dark Assassin15
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2012-10-31 20:00:16 UTC
Honestly the worst thread I have ever read.

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Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
#3 - 2012-10-31 20:01:46 UTC
Yeah... its soooo horrible....

All Missiles
Increase missile acceleration so that real range is much closer to the client assumed range of flighttime*speed against a stationary target. This means a slight range buff for all missiles, and missiles will act in a way that is more intuitive to newer players.

Short Range Missiles
Change the Guided Missile Precision skill, as well as all associated implants and rigs to affect all subcap missiles
Reduce HAM launcher PG requirements by 10%

Light Missiles
-Decrease all Light Missile Launcher fitting requirements by 2pg and 4cpu
-Explosion radius reduced from 50 to 40
-Damage increased by 10% (rounded to closest digit)
-Affects all variant light missiles, including FOF.

Heavy Missiles
-Base flight time reduced by 35%
-Base velocity increased by 14.66%
-In total, base range reduced by ~25%
-Damage decreased by 10% (rounded to closest digit)
-Explosion radius increased by 12%
-Affects all variant Heavy missiles, including FOF.

Tech Two Missiles
-Remove ship penalties from tech two missiles (ship velocity and signature radius)
-Precision: Increase bonuses to explosion velocity to +20%, increase damage to match T1 missiles
-Fury: Increase damage bonus to +35%, reduce flight time to 75% of T1, unify penalties to explosion radius (+72%) and velocity (-16%) across the sizes
-Javelin: Just remove ship penalties
-Rage: Increase damage bonus to +35%, Unify flight time to match T1, unify velocity penalty (-16.7%), unify penalty to explosion velocity (-14%), increase penalty to explosion radius (+72%)

Tracking/Range Mods and Ewar
Tracking mod and disruptor changes moved out of this release until the first set of changes settles a bit
Adeleda Adoudel
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-10-31 20:12:20 UTC
Dark Assassin15 wrote:
Honestly the worst thread I have ever read.


There are worse out there. But its definitely high up on the list.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#5 - 2012-10-31 20:13:39 UTC
Hooray! Drake/Tengu supposed nerf thread#123452323123434134THISAGAIN43586092NINER

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
De'Veldrin
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2012-10-31 20:13:54 UTC
Dark Assassin15 wrote:
Honestly the worst thread I have ever read.


I;m not even really sure what the OP was trying to get at aside from some random QQ about the upcoming missile changes and apparently wanting drakes removed from the game entirely.

De'Veldrin's Corollary (to Malcanis' Law): Any idea that seeks to limit the ability of a large nullsec bloc to do something in the name of allowing more small groups into sov null will inevitably make it that much harder for small groups to enter sov null.
serras bang
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-10-31 20:16:21 UTC
De'Veldrin wrote:
Dark Assassin15 wrote:
Honestly the worst thread I have ever read.


I;m not even really sure what the OP was trying to get at aside from some random QQ about the upcoming missile changes and apparently wanting drakes removed from the game entirely.


all caldari ships as they will all be useless
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#8 - 2012-10-31 20:19:13 UTC
serras bang wrote:
all caldari ships as they will all be useless
So what you're saying is that you have no idea what these supposed “nerfs” entail?
Wacktopia
Fleet-Up.com
Keep It Simple Software Group
#9 - 2012-10-31 20:19:25 UTC
serras bang wrote:
if you all dont know about the caldari missles nerfs that are proposed to come in winter then i invite you to take a trip to go see them.

anyway youll notice the massive nerfing on the caldari ships i say is these changes go through caldari ships should be removed from the game sign here if you feel the same way.


HAMs are getting buffed
T2 missiles are getting buffed (speed penalty removed)
HML yes are getting nerfed a little.

What you have not said is how the nerfs actually effect you or the ships you fly.

Kitchen sink? Seriousy, get your ship together -  Fleet-Up.com
serras bang
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#10 - 2012-10-31 20:20:54 UTC
Tippia wrote:
serras bang wrote:
all caldari ships as they will all be useless
So what you're saying is that you have no idea what these supposed “nerfs” entail?


im actualy fully aware of what the changes entail and before you say anything in am soly acaldari missle user i have no skills for any other ships go figure and even im calling for all cal ships to be removed.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#11 - 2012-10-31 20:22:12 UTC
serras bang wrote:
im actualy fully aware of what the changes entail
So what you're saying is that a good portion of Caldari ships are getting a nice buff?
serras bang
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#12 - 2012-10-31 20:23:03 UTC
Wacktopia wrote:
serras bang wrote:
if you all dont know about the caldari missles nerfs that are proposed to come in winter then i invite you to take a trip to go see them.

anyway youll notice the massive nerfing on the caldari ships i say is these changes go through caldari ships should be removed from the game sign here if you feel the same way.


HAMs are getting buffed
T2 missiles are getting buffed (speed penalty removed)
HML yes are getting nerfed a little.

What you have not said is how the nerfs actually effect you or the ships you fly.



hml getting nerfed a lil 75% range reduction on fury missles. and if you notice javs now out range em and they still have a velocity penalty attached to em. there is no point to light, heavy or criuse any more.
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2012-10-31 20:23:04 UTC
serras bang wrote:
Tippia wrote:
serras bang wrote:
all caldari ships as they will all be useless
So what you're saying is that you have no idea what these supposed “nerfs” entail?


im actualy fully aware of what the changes entail and before you say anything in am soly acaldari missle user i have no skills for any other ships go figure and even im calling for all cal ships to be removed.

So basically ships that others use including myself should be removed because you cannot figure out how to use them to your benefit?
serras bang
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#14 - 2012-10-31 20:23:30 UTC
Tippia wrote:
serras bang wrote:
im actualy fully aware of what the changes entail
So what you're saying is that a good portion of Caldari ships are getting a nice buff?


weres the buff ?
Kaylyis
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2012-10-31 20:24:16 UTC
serras bang wrote:
Tippia wrote:
serras bang wrote:
all caldari ships as they will all be useless
So what you're saying is that you have no idea what these supposed “nerfs” entail?


im actualy fully aware of what the changes entail and before you say anything in am soly acaldari missle user i have no skills for any other ships go figure and even im calling for all cal ships to be removed.


Tracking links and other weapon upgrades will now affect missiles in addition to BCU.

Go hook up a tracking comp and load scripts and tell us what happens
serras bang
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#16 - 2012-10-31 20:25:26 UTC
Kaylyis wrote:
serras bang wrote:
Tippia wrote:
serras bang wrote:
all caldari ships as they will all be useless
So what you're saying is that you have no idea what these supposed “nerfs” entail?


im actualy fully aware of what the changes entail and before you say anything in am soly acaldari missle user i have no skills for any other ships go figure and even im calling for all cal ships to be removed.


Tracking links and other weapon upgrades will now affect missiles in addition to BCU.

Go hook up a tracking comp and load scripts and tell us what happens


reduces shield capacity a pritty big friking nerf to mission runners
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#17 - 2012-10-31 20:25:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
serras bang wrote:
weres the buff ?
Damage. Damage application. Fitting space. Fitting options. Removal of penalties.

You know this already since you are “fully aware of what the changes entail”. Or aren't you?
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2012-10-31 20:26:56 UTC
serras bang wrote:
Kaylyis wrote:
serras bang wrote:
Tippia wrote:
serras bang wrote:
all caldari ships as they will all be useless
So what you're saying is that you have no idea what these supposed “nerfs” entail?


im actualy fully aware of what the changes entail and before you say anything in am soly acaldari missle user i have no skills for any other ships go figure and even im calling for all cal ships to be removed.


Tracking links and other weapon upgrades will now affect missiles in addition to BCU.

Go hook up a tracking comp and load scripts and tell us what happens


reduces shield capacity a pritty big friking nerf to mission runners

Where are you getting this reduction in shield capacity from?
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#19 - 2012-10-31 20:28:35 UTC
Tyberius Franklin wrote:
Where are you getting this reduction in shield capacity from?
He's not actually talking about shield capacity. He's talking about giving up a shield extender (or hardener) for a TC.
Kaylyis
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2012-10-31 20:28:56 UTC
Your inability to fit a lazy tank anymore is hardly something I have sympathy for as an armor tanker. This is one of the few times I believe this response is justified in a non troll reply. Adapt or die.
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