EVE General Discussion

Of course. What is mining but bot aspirant behavior? Even if they're at the keyboard, even if they're interacting with the game, they are not doing anything to actively harvest that ore.

I find it humorous that, 30 pages into a thread titled "Miners Unite to Fight the New Order", we're still being told how little we matter.

If that's true, what's the continuous conversation about? 30 pages about something that "doesn't matter"?

Two choices:

1) Pay the 10mil ISK for a year of mining
2) Do something about it other than whine

Of course, we're not affecting anyone's playstyle, are we..Anslo usually hangs out in a hisec ice field chatting, so no change there, right? You don't realize that you're an example of the fact that the New Order DOES have an impact, Anslo. When's the last time you hung out in a belt in a non-mining ship just talking?

There are more choices than "do nothing" and "do something (mining) like you're nothing".

By the way, the point that's being missed by most: it doesn't matter which of the two options above you choose to do...we win, since the stated goal of the New Order is to get people ACTIVELY playing the game.

I realize that, if you truly enjoy at-the-keyboard mining, you probably don't understand what "the point" is...that's what we're working to fix.

This is a sandbox, not a leaky kiddie pool that needs to continuously be refilled with tears.

Say what you'd like Acolyte. Liberty of Game is all that matters. If that means bears must bare teeth and claw to defend it, so be it...after which we will promptly return to being afk

I would too, but it'll never happen, because the type of player we're talking about is the type of person who would say "screw it" and leave before taking any personal responsibility for their game experience.

I said a long time ago, if a mere fraction of the high sec crowd would get together just a tiny bit to either fight back or
Vote, Goons would be removed from Deklien in 2 days and the CSM would be ALL high sec. But no, the majorty stays silent and the vocal minority spends more time in GD talking about "game liberty" than doing anything real or concrete about the things the claim to be concerned about......


......which is a big part of where the hate against them come from lol.

8 months of blowing up miners didnt result in this so I doubt they will start now.

Which I find amazing. I got blown up by a goon in low sec once, I ended up joining anti-goon alliance after anti-goon alliance just for a chance to fight back. for the life of me I can't get people so intimidated by the thought of the loss of worthless pixels on a computer screen as to not want to fight back against their "oppressors".

Of course it could just be that some of them thing posting on GD is fighting back lol.

Who made such a claim, feel free to quote the part where I ever said I know what (up to) 400,000 people think.

I was simply explaining (and people like you seem to NEEd explaining to lol) why I and people like me don't care for certain ways of thinking (like the ways of the risk averse high sec carebear who'd rather quit or complain than fight back in game), at which point you come in posting nonsense about "nerd ragers" and how you refuse to put any effort into anything but your own enjoyment. Nonsense that has nothing to do with anything, and then capped it all of by calling me childish in as childish a manner possible, when I did not try to insult you in any way.

A better idea for you would be to take a look at your own opinions and evaluate where you stand on the issues being discussed, then (and only then) could yo make an actual meaningful contribution to the discussion we're having, rather than what you've chosen to do which it's sputter a bunch of noise.

But from what I can tell, everyone would have to expend effort to head to those belts, and that requires work.

Say again? My nerves are steel and glow in the dark, had you hit one, you would have seen a flash. You have not (I know, im looking at my nerves right now, no flashing), but keep trying, it's easier to do what you're trying to do than it is to evaluate yourself lol.

I think the core differance between you and I is this, I do not care what others do because it is none of my business. And please, the so called new order will never have any affect on me, because I will not allow it. No need for CCP or cries or whines. I would still like to know how bumping will effect the great majority of miners. Could you help out here? Explain in great detail how you will stop me from doing what I enjoy to do.