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CCP, can you share a larger version of that pony image? :3

EDIT: found it! http://www.allmystery.de/i/tfa4e68_cloudscape_pony_commission.png (thanks to uni friends)

I was a big fan of the PLEX-for-PLEX but I also understand how the system could be abused. There where no limitaions to the amount of accounts that could be created this way.

Many of my friends made good use of the PLEX-for-PLEX feature, some needed a cyno alt or 2, some made haulers and salvagers, others made mining alts. Having a few alts like this makes ones life a lot easier and you can be more self sufficient.

Can I suggest that CCP dont remove the PLEX-for-PLEX system compleatly but put in limitations that will prevents unlimited creations of new accounts.

How about limiting the number of PLEX-for-PLEX invites to the age of your account?
If your account is 1 year old, you have 1 PLEX-for-PLEX buddy invite per month.
If your account is 2 years old, you have 2 PLEX-for-PLEX buddy invite per month.
If your account is 3 years old, you have 3 PLEX-for-PLEX buddy invite per month.

Then maybe make 3 the max regadless of account age. This way people can still have their cyno, hauler, salvager, miner, scount, Jita market checker, what-ever-alt-character or give their friends a 51 day account to try out EvE. This also eliminates the unrestricted creations of new accounts as the new accounts will not have PLEX-for-PLEX invites.

What do you think CCP? Is this something that will curb the abuse while allowing people the comfort of having a few alts?

I have been using trial alts for various purpose for many years. The only thing different about the 51-day was the ability to remove the trial account restrictions. As has been pointed out, you can get the equivalent arrangement by turning the transaction around: the alt uses the PLEX to activate, you get the game time, rather than you giving the plex to alt, he activates, you get plex back, you resub your main account. It effectively limits you, at least in terms of PLEX costs, to one of these alts per month. In other words, if there is something wrong with 51-day alts, then it will still be wrong. There will be fewer, its true, but they will still exist.

The dev response above specifically mentions RMT concerns. I'm not sure how that sort of abuse works in this context, but if it is a genuine issue, then clearly it deserves a fix. Farming gifts is an odd one; I had thought that the plex for plex system was created after last Xmas, so perhaps this is a future concern. I can see the concern for farming, but really, more of the gifts makes them less valuable, not more valuable, so... meh.

As for any arguments about server/system/DB resources, you must be joking. No one person can bring enough online at a time to realistically impact performance and even if everyone brought one on online, we'd still be in the general vicinity of the all time concurrent users. Looking purely at logon stats, there has been no major increase in number of people logged on. I don't think the issue is resources or any sort of "too many alts" thing (in fact, I'm willing to bet the total subscriber numbers have been propped up by the 51 day alt accounts). I suspect that the main reason has something to do with RMT. If I had to guess, it probably makes botting a whole lot easier.

I think you are right in this. Botters had an infinite supply to 51day accounts. If they got banned they could just start up new accounts and move operations somewhere else and keep botting. FW was probably another area that got abused by 51day alts but that’s just me speculating.

I dont see it as abuse if someone has 2 cyno and a salvager / hauler alts. If you live on the outer edge of the universe you might need 2-3 cynos to get where you want to go. If you have to rely on other people for cynos to get your Jump Freighter around things can get ugly real quick.

Anyway... I think CCP can remove majority of the abuse they are referring to by limiting the PLEX-for-PLEX invites while stil allowing people to have the occasional alt.

Would be good to get some input from CCP on this.

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Hello, i sended invite to create alt before change, but i upgrade new accout by plex today, after change, my question is, becouse i chose plex for reword and didn't know abaut incoming changes, i get plex? game time for main acc or i must send petition for change reward, or i get nothing?

grats ccp nice one :)
have nice day

It does not take someone with superior intellect to see what CCPs true goal is they feel they are too large to rely on the buddy program this mass invite thing is just an excuse to stop paying out rewards for successful upgraded accounts

if say you start a trial account for your secondary or alt account through a buddy request U get a Plex exactly like the power of 2 but going about it a grayish way intern then U keep the account running, correct? so CCP wins ? yes. CCP still makes a monthly credit..

if a person sends out a mass request that would not hurt the game as what percent of people stop playing after purchasing 1st months account, not many, more people stop playing at the end of the trial.

the majority of player who play this game already play 3-4 other online game some of which already pay subscription and the money side is irreverent

CCP YOU may never read this cause you are big enough to not care what your loyal subscribers think :


-WHAT POSSIBLE GAIN DO I GET NOW FOR INVITING PEOPLE
-WHY SHOULD I GO THOUGH THE TROUBLE OF ADVERTISING TO ALL MY FRIEND ABOUT THIS GAME
AND ACTIVELY TRYING TO GET PEOPLE INTERESTED
-DOES CCP NEED US OR DO WE NEED ccp

I love this game but this relationship is a little one sided

I ♥ the Ponies !!!

lol

The buddy invite is the cause of spam on many forums and community sites, I don't call that a success. Seems like thousands of players are spending more time spamming forums then actually playing EVE.

New players in EVE = great. CCP inciting everyone to spam the internetz with buddy invites = bad.

What is a greater way to get new players in the game then by reading stories and experiences from EVE players on forums and other game sites instead of the mindless frikking annoying spam invites by people that farm rewards on every site they can post their stupid invite links. When I go to the Steam community hub and forum I only see topics with buddy invites while you should see community interaction and people sharing their EVE experiences (that should get people interested in EVE). How about spending some cash on advertisements yourself instead of letting the paying customers do it for you in return for a reward. That makes CCP pimps and the customers spamming invites ho's.

I've got some good and some bad news for you. Bad news first: you didn't read the devblog you're commenting on. Now the good news: you still get game time.

As much as I've tried, I can't find buddies smart enough to play Eve