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Miners Unite to Fight the New Order!

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#561 - 2012-10-30 21:24:01 UTC
Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:
HollyShocker 2inthestink wrote:
I blame CCP for not giving the miners the options or tools to field a fit that would allow a decent chance to fight back not just hope concord gets there in time.

You're saying that people who train mining skills should be allowed to use weapons based on those mining skills? Or even that CCP should introduce a new mining barge that not only has an enormous EHP tank, but also has the fitting attributes for guns, drones, mining lasers and tanks?

And you wonder why miners are mocked?

No, I didn't have to wonder for long.

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HollyShocker 2inthestink
HOW to PEG SAFETY
#562 - 2012-10-30 22:29:53 UTC
Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:
HollyShocker 2inthestink wrote:
I blame CCP for not giving the miners the options or tools to field a fit that would allow a decent chance to fight back not just hope concord gets there in time.

You're saying that people who train mining skills should be allowed to use weapons based on those mining skills? Or even that CCP should introduce a new mining barge that not only has an enormous EHP tank, but also has the fitting attributes for guns, drones, mining lasers and tanks?

And you wonder why miners are mocked?


-100 comprehension
Kainotomiu Ronuken
koahisquad
#563 - 2012-10-30 22:31:05 UTC
HollyShocker 2inthestink wrote:
Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:
HollyShocker 2inthestink wrote:
I blame CCP for not giving the miners the options or tools to field a fit that would allow a decent chance to fight back not just hope concord gets there in time.

You're saying that people who train mining skills should be allowed to use weapons based on those mining skills? Or even that CCP should introduce a new mining barge that not only has an enormous EHP tank, but also has the fitting attributes for guns, drones, mining lasers and tanks?

And you wonder why miners are mocked?


-100 comprehension

OK then, would you like to explain what you did mean? Because, I mean, "options or tools to field a fit that would allow a decent chance to fight back" sounds like you want guns on a mining barge to me.
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#564 - 2012-10-30 22:41:50 UTC
^ 12k character limit
TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
#565 - 2012-10-31 07:14:34 UTC
Moonlit Raid wrote:
Hans Zwaardhandler wrote:
Anti-social Tendencies wrote:
Hans Zwaardhandler wrote:
Again, I'll ask why is it that people just don't move to another system with their precious ice and ore belts? There are dozens in Caldari space to chose from, and even if they are a bit further ways out from Jita, they are quieter aren't they?


Not all that many systems with Ice in them. Very few that are convenient to where I run other operations. So I mine where it is convenient for me. The environment does help determine the level of convenience and bumpers are a part (small and insignificant part) of that environment.


Dotlan lists almost 13 ice belts in the Forge alone; that's not counting ice belts in all the neighbouring regions of Jita. Surely if the New Order is bothering you that much, you can mine elsewhere and either buy a freighter to haul your load to Jita, or purchase Red Frog Transport, yes?

Or ditch an annoying game mechanic?


"i refuse to put in any isk or effort CCP please change the game mechanics so everything is just handed to me immediately. In fact, if you could just change the mechanics so whenever I log in 500m is deposited straight into my wallet that would be great"

maybe just go play a different game
Bing Bangboom
DAMAG Safety Commission
#566 - 2012-10-31 14:07:28 UTC
There is already a module that will prevent bumping. It costs 10,000,000 ISK and lasts for one year.

Available from your nearest Agent.

Highsec is worth fighting for.

By choosing to mine in New Order systems, highsec miners have agreed to follow the New Halaima Code of Conduct.  www.minerbumping.com
Anslo
Scope Works
#567 - 2012-10-31 14:09:58 UTC
Or resist and fly free with liberty. Do not pay extortionists.

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Ritsum
Perkone
Caldari State
#568 - 2012-10-31 14:11:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Ritsum
Bing Bangboom wrote:
There is already a module that will prevent bumping. It costs 10,000,000 ISK and lasts for one year.

Available from your nearest Agent.



Hmm I have a Idea for myself now, I will now go around and find the people who paid you and bump them my self! Just so they know there money is worthless.

Edit. It might even get them to realise that they can do other things to get back at you guys.

Play EvE how you want to play it and do not let others dictate how you play. Evolve your playstyle to protect yourself from others! Even in "PVE", "PVP" is there, lurking in the shadows.
Anslo
Scope Works
#569 - 2012-10-31 14:16:22 UTC
Ritsum wrote:
Bing Bangboom wrote:
There is already a module that will prevent bumping. It costs 10,000,000 ISK and lasts for one year.

Available from your nearest Agent.



Hmm I have a Idea for myself now, I will now go around and find the people who paid you and bump them my self! Just so they know there money is worthless.


Counter productive. Maybe ask for them to pay 10mil for you to stop mining? Big smile

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Bing Bangboom
DAMAG Safety Commission
#570 - 2012-10-31 14:20:04 UTC
All Bumps serve the New Order....

Highsec is worth fighting for.

By choosing to mine in New Order systems, highsec miners have agreed to follow the New Halaima Code of Conduct.  www.minerbumping.com
Ritsum
Perkone
Caldari State
#571 - 2012-10-31 14:23:14 UTC
Bing Bangboom wrote:
All Bumps serve the New Order....



But that is the thing... What will happen if the ones that paid you still get bumped? They will get upset and might grow a backbone and do something about this whole issue. Who knows...

Play EvE how you want to play it and do not let others dictate how you play. Evolve your playstyle to protect yourself from others! Even in "PVE", "PVP" is there, lurking in the shadows.
Bing Bangboom
DAMAG Safety Commission
#572 - 2012-10-31 14:30:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Bing Bangboom
Ritsum wrote:
Bing Bangboom wrote:
All Bumps serve the New Order....



But that is the thing... What will happen if the ones that paid you still get bumped? They will get upset and might grow a backbone and do something about this whole issue. Who knows...



Getting them to do something, anything, IS the point.

Highsec is worth fighting for.

By choosing to mine in New Order systems, highsec miners have agreed to follow the New Halaima Code of Conduct.  www.minerbumping.com
Anslo
Scope Works
#573 - 2012-10-31 14:32:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Anslo
Bing Bangboom wrote:
Getting them to do something, anything, IS the point.


They are doing something. Mining. Why should you get to tell them that they have to do something else?
Also are you admitting you might bump people who did pay your ransom despite all your chest beating and holier-than-thou attitude? Oh dear.

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Robert De'Arneth
#574 - 2012-10-31 14:33:20 UTC
Bing Bangboom wrote:
Ritsum wrote:
Bing Bangboom wrote:
All Bumps serve the New Order....



But that is the thing... What will happen if the ones that paid you still get bumped? They will get upset and might grow a backbone and do something about this whole issue. Who knows...



Getting them to do something, anything, IS the point.


We are doing something, ignoring bumpers and making ISK. The fact that you have no way to enforce what you are doing in the end is why you will fail. Big smile

I'm a nerd, you can check my stats!! Skilling Int/Mem at 45 sp per minute is how I mack!     I'm like a lapdog, all bark no bite. 
Ritsum
Perkone
Caldari State
#575 - 2012-10-31 14:33:37 UTC
Might want to tell them that since they seem to have missed it. Though they most likely wont pvp since they are Pve players like me and likely suck at it like me.

Play EvE how you want to play it and do not let others dictate how you play. Evolve your playstyle to protect yourself from others! Even in "PVE", "PVP" is there, lurking in the shadows.
TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
#576 - 2012-10-31 14:35:58 UTC
Anslo wrote:
Or resist and fly free with liberty. Do not pay extortionists.


Your idea of "resisting" is spurting tears all over the forum. I enjoy that a lot, but for any real miners out there, ones who are not mere undesirables, there are better suggestions.
Anslo
Scope Works
#577 - 2012-10-31 14:38:01 UTC
TheGunslinger42 wrote:
Anslo wrote:
Or resist and fly free with liberty. Do not pay extortionists.


Your idea of "resisting" is spurting tears all over the forum. I enjoy that a lot, but for any real miners out there, ones who are not mere undesirables, there are better suggestions.


You're right! And they'll soon be shared for the benefit of all free miners. Liberty of game, unity to defend it.
Resist and live free miners.

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Bing Bangboom
DAMAG Safety Commission
#578 - 2012-10-31 14:40:08 UTC
Ritsum wrote:
Might want to tell them that since they seem to have missed it. Though they most likely wont pvp since they are Pve players like me and likely suck at it like me.


We do tell them. We repeatedly advise them to go to www.minerbumping.com and read The Code. Paying the 10,000,000 ISK is just the first step on their road to recovery from bot-aspirant behavior.

In any case, they know what we want them to do. They resist for a while. Since we control the system they eventually either pay or dock up. Or fly around in noob ships pretending to be William Wallace....

Highsec is worth fighting for.

By choosing to mine in New Order systems, highsec miners have agreed to follow the New Halaima Code of Conduct.  www.minerbumping.com
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#579 - 2012-10-31 14:49:20 UTC
Anslo wrote:
Bing Bangboom wrote:
Getting them to do something, anything, IS the point.


They are doing something. Mining. Why should you get to tell them that they have to do something else?
Also are you admitting you might bump people who did pay your ransom despite all your chest beating and holier-than-thou attitude? Oh dear.


I heard there are ice belts and rocks elsewhere in the universe. I wonder if the rumors are true.
Anslo
Scope Works
#580 - 2012-10-31 14:57:53 UTC
Bing Bangboom wrote:

We do tell them. We repeatedly advise them to go to www.minerbumping.com and read The Code. Paying the 10,000,000 ISK is just the first step on their road to recovery from bot-aspirant behavior.

In any case, they know what we want them to do. They resist for a while. Since we control the system they eventually either pay or dock up. Or fly around in noob ships pretending to be William Wallace....


Again with this bot-aspirant behavior? You define any act of mining as bot-aspirant...

There is no road to recovery, only a scheme to leash the proveldtariat. Resistance if liberty.

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]