Crime & Punishment

I think someone have forgot about concorde..
Also, agressing a PVE-fit BS in a trasher might save the concorde from undocking at all

Unless you are planning on doing this in Lo-sec.. witch would remove concord from the equation. You would still have to get a BS in a trasher though.. witch i doubt u will manage since you are as u say..new to this...and alone in a trasher, against a BS....

A good way to gank those stupid rich mission runners is to just salvage and loot everything, once they open fire on you and you can engage them back you quickly jump to station with a good ship go back and pew pew them down if they are still there.

The trick is to find the ones that will fire on your little salvage ship allowing you to engage them.

Most that have not tried pvp will think "Oh I can shoot that ship now that he has stolen my loot!" they do not think about you being able to shoot back after that and most will feel safe with all those faction/officer mods that they wont warp away after shooting your salvage boat.

I seriously do not get those guys who roll around with officer/faction mods on... Tech II mods allow you to do L4's quite easily so why waste ISK like that :S

Edit: go look at the blog "My loot your tears" that is where I found out about this tactic... Mainly the older posts.

hey Mushroom head... GL with the killing a BS in a thrasher.

I'm actually quite surprized that not much people seem to be ganking mission runners these days. Okay, I've seen a couple of thirty-something billion ship losses, but that's it. Maybe it's just because there are other targets that can net you such expencive killmails out there to gank?

That said, I see how blingy mods can help you with speeding up your mission running (like, using deadpace tanking mod can save you a slot for damage/tracking/whatever mods that have quality of greatly speeding stuff up). On the other hand, I'm not sure how long does it take for some of those fits to acually pay off themselves.

Hi there!

Most ninjas find that the best way to get those juicy MR kills is to keep things simple and volume high. It rarely pays to spend a lot of time investigating your mark before you start yoinking his stuff, because all that effort is wasted if the MR you're after has more than two braincells to rub together.

As such, most of us settle into a simple and quick routine:

1. Scan down a Battleship or Battlecruiser.
2. Get in and yoink his stuff.
3. Half-interestedly check his info while yoinking his stuff.
4. If shot at, destroy him. Dock up and bring a bigger ship if you need to.

This allows us to rifle through a lot of missions in a short amount of time, maximizing the odds of finding a "shooter". No fancy business with cloaks or rat-analysis. Hell I've been in hundreds of missions and I've never even bothered to learn about NPC damage types.

Don't fret too much over which class of ships you go after or what damage types you need to be doing. Most mission runners couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper bag. A halfway decent PVP fit can punch well above its weight because PVE pilots don't understand much. Like this guy:



We have people doing that in Slashers on a regular basis

Listen to Yuri as he learned from da best. ;)

Train up a cov ops for scanning, or even better, a scanning alt on a 2nd account so you can do even more mission invasions. It's a numbers game that will mean eventually you will get shot and then switch to your kill ship and have at it.

I think mission runner ganking has slowed greatly due to a number of factors. For one, there aren't nearly as many actual players running missions (bots and mission alts everywhere tbh) as the good PVE money is elsewhere. Successive nerfs of the ninja profession has made it much more of a niche career than it once was.

Still, there are plenty of kills to be had, and the winter expansion might actually make it better since you'll be red to everyone in EVE and probably draw more PVP opportunities. It's hard to predict how things will shake out.

Cheers Solo! And I agree, Bladewise was a great teacher. When he was sober enough to speak coherently




Not entirely sure how you're envisioning this... Two accounts? Just corp them up and use the corp bookmark system. Anyway, a stealth bomber doesn't give you any bonus to scanning, and we don't generally recommend taking soft but expensive frigates into missions due to the risk posed by rats and embarrassing lossmails.

Cloaks are not much use to ninjas because of all the forced warp-in points, acceleration gates, and other junk that clutters mission areas. Brazen disrespect for the law and a lack of common decency tends to work better that stealthy subtlety (I know, not very ninja, but there ya go).

Alright then, good luck out there

Look us up if you find that ninja salvagin / MR ganking is your thing. We're (almost) always open for new members.

Thanks!

Great advice guys, have some likes.

Everyone who has advised going through as many missions as possible as quickly as possible has it right. The problem with flipping mission runners is that a vast majority will not take the bait. They will ignore you, out-salvage you, or just warp away and dock up.

A fun variation is to set up camp at a big mission hub station with several L4 agents. Put your probes at close range to the station and just run continuous scans so that you get the sigs of the missioners. At the same time, passive ship scan them so you can match sigs to juicy fits. Once you get a nice collection of sigs, scan the system you're in and the adjacent systems. This will also get you their tank and ammo intel, although most will be fit for the rats in the area, so that's not a big deal.

I would advise using a Noctis as your initial warp-in/salvage/loot ship. They're expensive enough to be tempting, not associated with combat, etc. If they shoot the Noctis, warp out, bring back something tanked against their ammo, able to deal with any drones, fast enough to get to them before they warp out if possible.

Good luck. My bet is that you quit after a few days of being bored.