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Natsett Amuinn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#21 - 2012-10-31 02:04:22 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:
With mass tantrums comes radical change.

Look at the Exhumer buff, for instance. The elites took a legitimate game mechanic and used it to push CCP to nerfing their favorite pastime.

Now they are childishly ganking every freighter that crosses their path and bumping every miner that has the audacity to undock.

It will end badly for them ('them' being anyone who abuses the system. Not just gankers.) and they will cry a river that it's everyone's fault but theirs. When that's exactly who's fault it is.

Mr Epeen Cool


I don't see it happening, only because several of the devs have come out and openly stated that "ganking" is a valid part of EVE. Only miner ganking wasn't inteded to be profitable.

As long as you're flying freighters with a couple of billion in your hold, you shoud absolutely be gankable; there's no way for CCP to make it a "not for profit" activety.


I"m putting a lot of faith in CCP knowing that people who put billions of isk into a ship and try to move it in high sec without taking any measures to protect that haul, are very much a valid target.

All my **** makes it to it's destination, if someone elses isn't it's their fault and not the gankers.


Besides the bumping and freighter ganking complaining has more to do with a likely reduction in miner ganking. I'm sure at this point miners have figured out that they have no leg to stand on if they complain about ganking; so they've moved on to the last couple of things that actually affect them in the hopes that CCP does something about it.

I'm sure that CCP understand more than anyone that the game doesn't really work as intended if the high sec economy can't be impacted by other people. With inferno they removed a big part of how players could have an impact, hopefully with retribution and the bounty system we get that back, AND miners can use the same tool to fight back as well.

Retribution may not just mean high sec being able to fight back against pirates, but other people being able to fight back against the high sec economy which, apparently unknown to many in high sec, is effecting a large part of the rest of New Eden, and not in a good way.
Nexus Day
Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau
#22 - 2012-10-31 02:10:24 UTC
Andski wrote:
White Quake wrote:
As a PvP pilot of nine years


Imperial Academy [IAC] from 2012.10.26 01:02 to this day

doesn't look like nine years to me, I even double checked


He said in a previous thread he was posting on an alt. I thought you would know that given you posted in the thread.

Of course you didn't seem to disagree with his opinion in that one.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#23 - 2012-10-31 02:14:19 UTC
Natsett Amuinn wrote:
Besides the bumping and freighter ganking complaining has more to do with a likely reduction in miner ganking. I'm sure at this point miners have figured out that they have no leg to stand on if they complain about ganking; so they've moved on to the last couple of things that actually affect them in the hopes that CCP does something about it.

So what after they get that anti-bump module...

What's the next thing they'll need fixed for them in order that EVE not die?

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Natsett Amuinn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#24 - 2012-10-31 02:17:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Natsett Amuinn
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Natsett Amuinn wrote:
Besides the bumping and freighter ganking complaining has more to do with a likely reduction in miner ganking. I'm sure at this point miners have figured out that they have no leg to stand on if they complain about ganking; so they've moved on to the last couple of things that actually affect them in the hopes that CCP does something about it.

So what after they get that anti-bump module...

What's the next thing they'll need fixed for them in order that EVE not die?

Obviously the abilty to move infinite amounts of isk worth of goods without worry.

Predictable high secers are predictable.

Than they'll demand CCP put an end to mission ganking.

Then half the playerbase will leave and EVE will be another UO. A great sandbox game with half the original number of people playing it because the whiny brats made it unfun for the other half.


PS: Did we just connect the dots on how to "kill" EVE?

PPS: you know damned well they wouldn't fit that module any more than they fit a module to tank the barges. They'd get the module and then demand CCP make it a passive effect on all barges.
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2012-10-31 02:19:56 UTC
HAHAHAHA THE SMALL HEAD !!! XD
Shederov Blood
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
#26 - 2012-10-31 02:49:28 UTC
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
Your head looks too small Straight
5. We hate people who are different.

Who put the goat in there?
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#27 - 2012-10-31 03:27:24 UTC
Natsett Amuinn wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Natsett Amuinn wrote:
Besides the bumping and freighter ganking complaining has more to do with a likely reduction in miner ganking. I'm sure at this point miners have figured out that they have no leg to stand on if they complain about ganking; so they've moved on to the last couple of things that actually affect them in the hopes that CCP does something about it.

So what after they get that anti-bump module...

What's the next thing they'll need fixed for them in order that EVE not die?

Obviously the abilty to move infinite amounts of isk worth of goods without worry.

Predictable high secers are predictable.

Than they'll demand CCP put an end to mission ganking.

Then half the playerbase will leave and EVE will be another UO. A great sandbox game with half the original number of people playing it because the whiny brats made it unfun for the other half.


PS: Did we just connect the dots on how to "kill" EVE?

PPS: you know damned well they wouldn't fit that module any more than they fit a module to tank the barges. They'd get the module and then demand CCP make it a passive effect on all barges.

I think James 315 already connected those dots.

Not like it will affect the way things develop in EVE. Maybe...

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#28 - 2012-10-31 05:13:50 UTC
Nexus Day wrote:
Andski wrote:
White Quake wrote:
As a PvP pilot of nine years


Imperial Academy [IAC] from 2012.10.26 01:02 to this day

doesn't look like nine years to me, I even double checked


He said in a previous thread he was posting on an alt. I thought you would know that given you posted in the thread.

Of course you didn't seem to disagree with his opinion in that one.


Every NPC alt poster is a 2003 player with director alts in every alliance in the game, right?

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Thor Kerrigan
Guardians of Asceticism
#29 - 2012-10-31 05:18:55 UTC
White Quake wrote:
comparing wow to eve in my own words


I was like you once but then I realized there is no such thing as PVE players in EVE.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#30 - 2012-10-31 05:19:13 UTC
Andski wrote:
Nexus Day wrote:
Andski wrote:
White Quake wrote:
As a PvP pilot of nine years


Imperial Academy [IAC] from 2012.10.26 01:02 to this day

doesn't look like nine years to me, I even double checked


He said in a previous thread he was posting on an alt. I thought you would know that given you posted in the thread.

Of course you didn't seem to disagree with his opinion in that one.


Every NPC alt poster is a 2003 player with director alts in every alliance in the game, right?

Is he gonna push our magic button?

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#31 - 2012-10-31 05:21:11 UTC
I hate everything that doesn't have goggles.

No reason, just arbitrarily decided that just now.

DIE PUPILED FIENDS!
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#32 - 2012-10-31 05:24:01 UTC
Akirei Scytale wrote:
I hate everything that doesn't have goggles.

No reason, just arbitrarily decided that just now.

DIE PUPILED FIENDS!

Monocles? Bicles?

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Ghazu
#33 - 2012-10-31 05:25:05 UTC
I don't hate the victims, I just love ganking them.

http://www.minerbumping.com/ lol what the christ https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2299984#post2299984
Ghazu
#34 - 2012-10-31 05:26:30 UTC
Also so nice of you to grace us the unwashed masses with your presence in this cesspit.

http://www.minerbumping.com/ lol what the christ https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2299984#post2299984
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#35 - 2012-10-31 06:11:31 UTC
The next thing people will be screaming for is the ability to "fax" stuff across the universe with zero risk, in the process putting corps and players who have generated their own game, via setting up actual businesses, out of business.

I was going to say the automated gathering of ISK and materials while never playing the game, but that's already happening.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
#36 - 2012-10-31 06:16:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Touval Lysander
baltec1 wrote:

Yes its the gankers fault the freighter pilots are undocking with 20+ billion in their holds...

I love this line of reasoning. I laugh everytime I see it.

It's used often so I get to laugh a lot.

Dude, your beautiful ship! What happened??!

I was there.

"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
#37 - 2012-10-31 06:18:46 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
The next thing people will be screaming for is the ability to "fax" stuff across the universe with zero risk,

Jump freighters.

Quote:

I was going to say the automated gathering of ISK and materials while never playing the game, but that's already happening.

Tech moons.

Just bumping the thread along man... Not trying to kill it or anything.

"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
Ritsum
Perkone
Caldari State
#38 - 2012-10-31 06:27:31 UTC
I will always PVE. If there was a valid reason to PVE in low/null that helped alliances/corps then I would be down there but there isn't.

I will always PVE because I suck at PVP. I would PVE anywhere but I choose to PVE in High sec because there is no reason for me to get into a low/null corp that would push PVP onto me as I try to PVE.

Bring on the hate and bring on the pain, in the end I will still be standing strong to my play style.

Play EvE how you want to play it and do not let others dictate how you play. Evolve your playstyle to protect yourself from others! Even in "PVE", "PVP" is there, lurking in the shadows.
Thor Kerrigan
Guardians of Asceticism
#39 - 2012-10-31 06:33:31 UTC
Ritsum wrote:
I will always PVE. If there was a valid reason to PVE in low/null that helped alliances/corps then I would be down there but there isn't.

I will always PVE because I suck at PVP. I would PVE anywhere but I choose to PVE in High sec because there is no reason for me to get into a low/null corp that would push PVP onto me as I try to PVE.

Bring on the hate and bring on the pain, in the end I will still be standing strong to my play style.


Gankers love you, because they can bring the pain forever.
Ritsum
Perkone
Caldari State
#40 - 2012-10-31 06:37:57 UTC
Thor Kerrigan wrote:
Ritsum wrote:
I will always PVE. If there was a valid reason to PVE in low/null that helped alliances/corps then I would be down there but there isn't.

I will always PVE because I suck at PVP. I would PVE anywhere but I choose to PVE in High sec because there is no reason for me to get into a low/null corp that would push PVP onto me as I try to PVE.

Bring on the hate and bring on the pain, in the end I will still be standing strong to my play style.


Gankers love you, because they can bring the pain forever.



I bet they would, though they have never tried ganking me... I wonder why?

Play EvE how you want to play it and do not let others dictate how you play. Evolve your playstyle to protect yourself from others! Even in "PVE", "PVP" is there, lurking in the shadows.