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Carebear Entitlement: The Decadence of the Modern Era

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#21 - 2012-10-30 21:27:34 UTC
Kagasumi wrote:
Suddenly Forums ForumKings wrote:
Stuff .

What exactly is your point? You don't provide any examples of how the game is sliding into carebear land.

Let's take a somewhat recent addition: Planetary Interaction.

You can do much better at it in null sec, than in high sec. Supplies are better in low than high, and higher than low in null.

How does that pander to carebears? Pilots in null sec can get filthy rich from it in comparison.

You are railing against carebears existing, is the real point you are trying to make. Sorry, but this game is for all types or players. Some go to null sec, and others don't. If you are getting bored down there, you have it within your own power to do something about it. Don't expect someone else's game to be altered to satisfy your own playstyle.

Yeah some of us just love to press (whine) butan ==> receive (miner buffs, ganking nerfs) "bacon".

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
#22 - 2012-10-30 21:27:57 UTC
Oh LOOK....

Yet another miners are bad mmmm kkkk..... rant.

THIS is getting stupid. REALLY.

It is.

FACT: Gankers CAN kill miners.
FACT: Gankers WON'T kill miners because there's no profit.

AND YET

AND YET

These same MUST.KILL.ALL.MINERS crowd are DONATING billions to BUMPING.

Why don't they just like, buy ships with it???

Discredited as yet another "I KNOW WHAT'S GOOD FOR YOU POST"..... Come here. BANG!!

There ya go. Feel better?

**** me.

"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#23 - 2012-10-30 21:54:03 UTC
Goonswarm behavior and other Null behavior (proliferation of Titan Blobs) is not Decadent ?

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#24 - 2012-10-30 22:03:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Riot Girl
I'm not a bitter old vet and I support this motion.

I wonder what is going to happen when CCP have to start pandering to the console crowd.

Oh god.
Helena Russell Makanen
DRRUSSEL
#25 - 2012-10-30 22:17:39 UTC
Robert De'Arneth wrote:
James 315 wrote:
Robert De'Arneth wrote:
You made me laugh, if I did not think you were an alt of James I might have given you a thumbs up.

I was just about to say, OP, welcome to the pantheon of "accused of being my alt"! Smile



Ahh James I was wondering when you were going to post to support one of your alts, I had it pegged at 18 mins and 42 seconds.


Yeah I thought that too for a few minutes. I mean the name 'ForumKings' alone.... very similar to James' babble about being King of High Sec or whatnot...

However he didn't mention a perverse desire to control miner's urine so who knows.

"If a miner needs to go to the bathroom, for instance, I ask that they dock up first, or at the very least ask the Supreme Protector for permission to go."  -  James 315 - aka - the miner bumper

Kainotomiu Ronuken
koahisquad
#26 - 2012-10-30 22:18:45 UTC
James 315 wrote:
Robert De'Arneth wrote:
You made me laugh, if I did not think you were an alt of James I might have given you a thumbs up.

I was just about to say, OP, welcome to the pantheon of "accused of being my alt"! Smile

Hardly a distinction anymore, though.
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#27 - 2012-10-30 22:23:02 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Goonswarm behavior and other Null behavior (proliferation of Titan Blobs) is not Decadent ?

Who do you think mined the ore to build those titans?
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#28 - 2012-10-30 22:24:29 UTC
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Goonswarm behavior and other Null behavior (proliferation of Titan Blobs) is not Decadent ?

Who do you think mined the ore to build those titans?

Mostly ~enthusiasic~ drone killers that produced the high ends. A decent amount of low-end minerals also came from there. Though undoubtedly the ~enthusiastic~ miners in highsec did their fair share.

And then we compressed it all and shipped it over to make our wonderful supercapital blobs. All hail the supercapital blob !

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Nexus Day
Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau
#29 - 2012-10-30 22:29:00 UTC
Still trying to figure out who the carebears are. Are they...

A) Hi-sec peeps that mine with a chance to be ganked or harassed where the gankers have consequences

or

B) Lo/Null-sec peeps that travel in large groups (blobs) killing with no reprecussion

They both whine equally so I am a bit confused.
Natsett Amuinn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#30 - 2012-10-30 22:42:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Natsett Amuinn
Kagasumi wrote:


You are railing against carebears existing, is the real point you are trying to make. Sorry, but this game is for all types or players. Some go to null sec, and others don't. If you are getting bored down there, you have it within your own power to do something about it. Don't expect someone else's game to be altered to satisfy your own playstyle.

That was pretty fail comprehension on your part.

The TL;DR version wouls say, simply, you can't make carebears happy; stop trying to.


Fact, "losing" something isn't the real problem a lot of people have, it's losing at all. I've never played a single MMO where people didn't complain about PvP; that inclueds games were you lose NOTHING, and you have to select a server that specifically allows for pvp.

There is a group of people playing EVE, right now, that do not want any other player to have an impact on them. Anyone that thinks otherwise is naive, ignorant, or is one those people.

When a bunch of people start complaining about an activety in the game, whose biggest impact on them is the loss of a cycle of ore, it's pretty obvious those people do not want other players to impact them. There is simply no other reason to complain abut such activities, other than the fact that the last xpac reduced the amount of miner ganking and this is really the only way people have to impact other players without costing them a substantial investment.

You gain nothing bumping, being bumped doesn't really lose you anything. How horrible it is.
Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
#31 - 2012-10-30 22:48:18 UTC
Natsett Amuinn wrote:

The TL;DR version wouls say, simply, you can't make carebears happy; stop trying to.

Finally. A voice of reason.

"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
Viktor Fel
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#32 - 2012-10-30 22:51:38 UTC
Well thought out post OP, +1.

James315, keep up the good work with those bot mining carebears. Bump bump, got some carebear tears in my trunk!

Who is Viktor Fel?

Killboard
Ioci
Bad Girl Posse
#33 - 2012-10-30 22:56:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Ioci
One thread on GD page one we have m0o nostalgia and in another we glorify the great bump war of 2012.

Working as intended, CCP?

Oh, sorry Joe501 or whatever your name is. You didn't invent bumping. It's been around since before POS bowling.

R.I.P. Vile Rat
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#34 - 2012-10-30 23:01:09 UTC
Ioci wrote:
One thread on GD page one we have m0o nostalgia and in another we glorify the great bump war of 2012.

Working as intended, CCP?


I think see your point. It's a shame that PvP in EvE has been reduced to bumping people. I regret not being able to play when the game was good.

Oh god.
Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
#35 - 2012-10-30 23:04:54 UTC
Viktor Fel wrote:
Well thought out post OP, +1.

James315, keep up the good work with those bot mining carebears. Bump bump, got some carebear tears in my trunk!

A bot can't be a carebear. He's a bot. Roll

"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
Geligdio Khan
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#36 - 2012-10-30 23:28:13 UTC


Totally true OP, great post. Keep it up.

Thanks
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#37 - 2012-10-30 23:28:54 UTC
What are people called who simply enjoy PvE content at this point? We had carebear, but in this game someone took our word.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#38 - 2012-10-30 23:41:43 UTC
Riot Girl wrote:
Ioci wrote:
One thread on GD page one we have m0o nostalgia and in another we glorify the great bump war of 2012.

Working as intended, CCP?

I think see your point. It's a shame that PvP in EvE has been reduced to bumping people. I regret not being able to play when the game was good.

PvP will have to be worked on. First of all, highsec needs a serious look over. People are ganking ~profitably~.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Jame Jarl Retief
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#39 - 2012-10-30 23:49:31 UTC
Suddenly Forums ForumKings wrote:
James 315, a hero of our generation, once said

James 315 wrote:


It's true that anyone can claim control of anything. Outside of EVE, a government is considered legitimate if it has the enduring ability to send men with guns to kill or imprison other people. Upon this power hangs all the law. There's no need for philosophy here: When a miner is bumped out of mining range, he no longer has the ability to mine--and he does not even get a share of the ore/ice he mined from earlier in the laser's cycle, when he was in range. Therefore, I can stop people from mining whenever I want. Since the miners want to mine ice, and since I alone decide whether or not they can, I command them. It's really that simple.




See, this is good and well, but unlike real life, the borders of EVE are not closed. Players can emigrate. To other games. And the entire system collapses.
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#40 - 2012-10-30 23:51:53 UTC
Ah, the classic empty 'carebear unsub' threat.