EVE General Discussion

I see your point. I think CCP have proven whining works so why not whine for the good of the game rather than something selfish.

Nerf highsec manufacturing to 1/20th the current slots available to them now. Boost player outpost indy slots by 20x.

Once a week asteroid respawns in highsec. 3x a week in low. Every day in Null.

Fix mineral distributions before you AGAIN nerf mineral compression.

Don't fly what you cannot afford to lose.

Do not haul what you cannot afford to lose.

Nowhere is truely "safe", it just dictates what penalty your killer receives.

Auto-pilot is a bad idea when hauling 20+ billion ISK.

You will be shot if you are a tasty target.

You WILL be killed if you are a tasty target.

The greater the lossmail the greater the tears.

I do not care that I just killed and looted everything you own in this game and all your earthly posessions.

Your anguish sustains me, your tears are my ambrosia.

Adding a cost to the manufacturing process insures it gets added on to the final product, please don't pretend it wont, or insult us all by not knowing how basic economics works.

If I never had to go to highsec, I wouldn't. It is your continual whines about needing your little corner of the world buffed that lead to my little corner being destitute. So I will kill you for it.

Keep on posting the same threads, seriously, they are totally new ideas and will TOTALLY get CCP to agree with you and again buff your way of life while leaving the "emergent gameplay" and sandbox creators and CNN headline creators in the same squalor of 3 years ago.

HTFU.

GTFO.

So how about the null sec ratters? Moon mining? Barely anything that generates substantial income in eve has risk.

So no wonder people say" leave local alone, we like it as it is"

Do major US weapons manufacturers build stuff in Afganistan? Have major US manufacturers EVER built stuff in a war zone?

The nature of industry isn't too take massive risks of having your stuff destroyed. The sooner you come to realize that, the sooner you will stop making these bad threads I guess.

Pretty sure Isreal is being accused of bombing a weapons factory in Sudan the other day. Sudan, that country allied with Iran, with Iranian backed weapons factories.

What's that about weapons being built in warzones?

You started off with what seemed a good argument, then you went and quasi-quoted a bunch of other posts with your solution. It's like afk cloakers all over again, or the remove local argument.

Yes, Highsec is mostly safe, yes it has a variety of minerals, and yes, it even has missions. Big deal.

You cite the mineral types to be found, but you give no consideration to quantities and availability. Sure someone can mine for 12 hours in High to get what it would take the same person, fit to mine in 4 hours in Null, but it is much faster to do it in Null. Maybe not for everything, but there are many different types of rocks to mine, and only the lower yield ones exist in Highsec. Also, quantity of minerals in asteroids changes by security level.

In a Wormhole, you can get a field the size of a small well mined belt in Highsec, but with much more variety and with much higher yields. The asteroids are huge, and they take forever to deplete. I'm speaking from experience. You don't have to move around, you just bookmark an asteroid and spend hours mining it between trips to the POS to unload.

Boring, but much more rewarding than jumping from one Roid to another in Highsec, and having horrible ISK/Hour earnings when compared to having Arkonor, Crokite, and Bistot to mine for hours on end in a wormhole.

I've never mined in Null and don't really have the inclination, but I suspect it is similar to that, except that the Roids are always there, where in wormholes they go when they go, and you'll be lucky to see another pocket spawn inside a week or two.

Flawed argument, if you consider that.

Then there is the Missions. Personally, I don't see them as that profitable overall, and they take a great deal of time. Also, they require a semblance of safety to complete, else they are pointless to have in the game. Not many players would mission 3-5s if they were in Lowsec. Maybe some pirates when they were bored, but not so much really.

Also, it would allow Pirates to camp, enjoy many benefits previously available in Highsec, and make ISK in many different ways, instead of just pirating. Like pirating hasn't proven to be rewarding enough as an activity, when there is little or no risk they'll even lose their ships 90% of the time.

So that would actually be detrimental to EVE in some respects, rather than helpful.

Think of another solution; maybe something original this time.

Notice under this system there are minerals which are only available in low, so miners will have to go there.
Trust me your dreaming if I could only have to be forced to mine in low I would quit the game cause now it's no longer a game that supports my style of play.

Moreover I propose high sec manufacturing is altered from 1000 ISK install charge, 333 Isk per hour, to 10,000 ISK install charge and 5,000 ISK per hour.
Have you ever though of how business is done...you pass on the xtra cost to the consumer...sheesh.

And finally I propose the only missions available in High Sec should be of levels 1 and 2. If you can afford a faction battleship you can afford to fly in Low and Null in a cruiser without trouble.
Ok, I do that now I jump in my assault frig and blitz many missions at the same time you can burn through several missions by the time you can finish 1 lvl 4 and you get storylines which give you xtra isk...ok now what.

You wish to shape this game to suit you but keep in mind many hi sec dweller's ARE null folks in hi sec clothing.

When I first was grinding to get into lvl 4's, there is no way I had the skills/training/ship to pull lvl 4's in a cruiser...

Just sayin', n00bs would be hurt worst with this idea.

I am a mining magnate.
I am a steel maker.
I am a manufacturer. I make tanks, guns and airplanes.
I have people I pay to travel the world and sell my products.
I may even have people travelling the world to make sure people have a reason to use my products.

I am wealthy beyond measure.
I have never used a gun in my life.
I have no need of bodyguards.
I do not wear a kevlar jacket or a helmet

Someone else does the fighting.

Even if that someone else is fighting for me, I must continue to supply them. I am as important as the fighter. If he does not have the tools to fight, he cannot protect me either.

I have a job to do. I am doing it. I am the miner. I am the industrialist.

If I must be all things, then the fighter must become a miner and industrialist too.

So Endeth the Lesson.

You get it though.

Russia was still building it's stuff in RUSSIA.

If VFK came under attack, I wouldn't want to move my entire operation to high sec (another sovereign nation) I would hope to be able to move it to another part of goon space (the nation I live in).

Someone confused the "ability" to do soemthing with the logistics of it.


No, you don't build in a warzone, but sometimes were things are built BECOMES a warzone.

"Null" is not a warzone, only places were the war takes place are.

ALL OF YOU?? lol.