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Serf of Hurlbat

Duckfleet

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#41 - 2012-10-30 21:01:58 UTC

KrakizBad wrote:

Serf of Hurlbat wrote:

Ginger Barbarella wrote:

Oh, look... this thread.

Again.

It's a legitimate discussion point. EVE is a game with very advanced social mechanics - it makes sense to try and understand them. A deeper social layout and hierarchy has formed in EVE, it is the goal of the communists to understand this layout and then ignite a revolution.

VFK by July?

If this "revolution" happens it will not be predicted. It will be a spontaneous rejection of the social laws which have dictated the working capsuleers.

Waddle on in.

Touval Lysander

Zero Wine

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#42 - 2012-10-30 21:02:46 UTC

Serf of Hurlbat wrote:

Chribba wrote:

Where is James327 when you need him?

Chribba - it is very easy to post jokes in a somewhat serious thread. Do you know what it's like for the true miners? Maybe you've given up mining for a career in publicity?

Titans don't move far when hit by a cruiser.

"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."

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Dar Manic Dirt Road Services Likes received: 79	#43 - 2012-10-30 21:02:50 UTC Great ideas... communism has worked so well for so many. We should try socialism too!!! I wantz mah free stuffs!! :) I just don't understand null sec players. Please note: Anytime I use the phrase PvP in a post, I'm talking about shooting/combat/killing things/blowing things up. Thank you.

Touval Lysander

Zero Wine

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#44 - 2012-10-30 21:11:42 UTC | Edited by: Touval Lysander

Natsett Amuinn wrote:

Industry in new eden is already centralized and controlled by a single group, high sec.

It's already communism.

Please stop trying to discredit my compaign of bringing fairness and equallity to all of new eden through the abolishment of the communist grip on industry in high sec by supporting a compaing of introducing communism into high sec.

It will not work. I see through your veiled attempts at swaying people away from the facts.

High sec industry is communism.

So says a pleb proclaiming revenance to a Dear Leader where the state owns and controls everything and he is left with the scraps.

The same state owned entity disclaiming the rights and the abilities of the free spirited capitalists in highsec, independent of control and urging their plebs to feed on the carcasses of the wealthy.

The same plebs who have doppelgangers, within the capitalist quarter, sharing in the wealth, all the while proclaiming the wealth they have must be coming from a state.

The same plebs who conduct raids into the capitalist quarter with funds and rewards provided by the state and claim it is all for the greater good as the plebs keep their own money invested in the capitalist quarter.

Dear Leader is not amused.

"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."

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Anslo Scope Works Likes received: 32,337	#45 - 2012-10-30 21:11:45 UTC Why not try demarchism for the proveldtariat? In all seriousness, demarchism is probably more what you're looking for. Liberty to do as you please (mine), unity to defend your entitled liberty (killing bumpers/gankers). [center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]

Touval Lysander

Zero Wine

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#46 - 2012-10-30 21:15:06 UTC

KrakizBad wrote:

Serf of Hurlbat wrote:

Ginger Barbarella wrote:

Oh, look... this thread.

Again.

VFK by July?

Nobody wants your space FA guy. It's broken. That's why you want ours.

"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."

Kono Kai

Doomheim

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#47 - 2012-10-30 21:16:46 UTC

Its not against the EULA
You aren't gods
This won't work

The two possible scenarios where your idea happen are A) CCP changes the game and removes the market. Game dies. or B) you convince every producer in the game (even those that are part of the evil alliances) to stop using the market. This will fail for one simple reason - greed. You won't convince everyone (or even most). Those who aren't as radical as you will simply see the market opening up more profit potential.

Kainotomiu Ronuken

koahisquad

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#48 - 2012-10-30 21:40:24 UTC

Chribba wrote:

Serf of Hurlbat wrote:

Chribba wrote:

Where is James327 when you need him?

Chribba - it is very easy to post jokes in a somewhat serious thread. Do you know what it's like for the true miners? Maybe you've given up mining for a career in publicity?

My bad.

I am very aware of many of the issues concerning miners, maybe more than you realize. So to answer your yestion. Yes I know what it is like. As far as giving up on mining, never, and never will. I just don't think we're doing it the same way.

/c

This just in; Chribba suggests mining in a dreadnaught to counter bumping.

Alavaria Fera

GoonWaffe

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#49 - 2012-10-30 21:42:27 UTC

Anslo wrote:

Why not try demarchism for the proveldtariat? In all seriousness, demarchism is probably more what you're looking for. Liberty to do as you please (mine), unity to defend your entitled liberty (killing bumpers/gankers).

You see the issue is:

Anslo wrote:

defend your entitled liberty (killing bumpers/gankers).

Can we get CCP (or rather CONCORD) to do that please? I know they do it for gankers, but bumpers are just as bad. They need to be ... eliminated.

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Luna Q

ASTARTES CORP

Hashashin Cartel

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#50 - 2012-10-30 21:44:11 UTC

Torvin Yulus wrote:

the problem: miners aren't getting the respect we deserve as the producers of all that exists in eve. we are the ship builders, the ammo makers, we are gods.

Miners get plenty of respect, Whiney, afk/botters, that can't figure this game out, and instead want the game changed to fit their play style get no respect.

Learn to eve aka adapt.

Luna

Caldari Provisions Caldari State 2,232
Natsett Amuinn Caldari Provisions Caldari State Likes received: 2,232	#51 - 2012-10-30 21:50:50 UTC 1 Serf of Hurlbat wrote: Chribba is a face, not a body. It is only the body (the working peoples) who can stand against oppression. EDIT: Sorry for the double post Ah yes, but even a group needs a single face.

Natsett Amuinn

Caldari Provisions

Caldari State

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#52 - 2012-10-30 21:52:35 UTC

Touval Lysander wrote:

KrakizBad wrote:

Serf of Hurlbat wrote:

Ginger Barbarella wrote:

Oh, look... this thread.

Again.

VFK by July?

Nobody wants your space FA guy. It's broken. That's why you want ours.

Pardon me, VFK isn't an FA system.

And the only thing broken is the centralization of industry in high sec, a communist economic idealology.

Touval Lysander

Zero Wine

Likes received: 609

#53 - 2012-10-30 21:53:24 UTC

Luna Q wrote:

Torvin Yulus wrote:

the problem: miners aren't getting the respect we deserve as the producers of all that exists in eve. we are the ship builders, the ammo makers, we are gods.

Miners get plenty of respect, Whiney, afk/botters, that can't figure this game out, and instead want the game changed to fit their play style get no respect.

Learn to eve aka adapt.

Luna

And what skills did you train that gave you the ability to say "HE IS AFK"?

Bots should be reported. Know any?

"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."

Touval Lysander

Zero Wine

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#54 - 2012-10-30 21:56:00 UTC

Natsett Amuinn wrote:

Touval Lysander wrote:

KrakizBad wrote:

Serf of Hurlbat wrote:

Ginger Barbarella wrote:

Oh, look... this thread.

Again.

VFK by July?

Nobody wants your space FA guy. It's broken. That's why you want ours.

Pardon me, VFK isn't an FA system.

And the only thing broken is the centralization of industry in high sec, a communist economic idealology.

Did you see WHO posted... Did you??

Ahh.. Sorry... My bad. He was talking about a communist plot to overthrow a communist regime in a communist thread about the capitalist sector.

Got it. thx.

"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."

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Jimmy 426 Doomheim Likes received: 0	#55 - 2012-10-30 21:56:44 UTC Communism is the devil. Free the ore! Free the ore! Down w/ miner bumping! Bounties go up Dec 4th.

Kainotomiu Ronuken

koahisquad

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#56 - 2012-10-30 21:57:11 UTC

Touval Lysander wrote:

And what skills did you train that gave you the ability to say "HE IS AFK"?

Bots should be reported. Know any?

You don't even need any skills! All you have to do is type it into local and there it is!

As for determining whether or not the miner in question is AFK, that's pretty simple too. All you have to do is say "Hello, [miner name]" in local. If he doesn't respond, then he's not interacting with the local community and can therefore be considered effectively AFK. If you want to be even more thorough, you can simply request a conversation. If he has auto-decline on, he's either a bot or a filthy AFK miner. If he doesn't respond for ages, he's also AFK.

Frostys Virpio

State War Academy

Caldari State

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#57 - 2012-10-30 21:58:49 UTC | Edited by: ISD TYPE40

Torvin Yulus wrote:

james316 and the miner bumpers are continuing to grief people *snip*
fortunately with empty headed bumbers were blogging about bumping miners i waqs thinking about how to solve the problem

the problem: miners aren't getting the respect we deserve as the producers of all that exists in eve. we are the ship builders, the ammo makers, we are gods.

the solution: end free market

the free market allows griefiers to buy ships and equipment to grief us. i think we need to remove the eve market and only allow direct trade between two players in the same station using the trade window. this will prevent griefers from acquiring our products to use against us.

How will you prevent every single miner from selling to people offering more isk for thier minerals? Because at some point, someone will sell out because everybody has a price.

EDIT: Had to edit that quote, don't mind me - ISD Type40.

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KrakizBad Section 8. Likes received: 1,421	#58 - 2012-10-30 21:58:59 UTC 1 Touval Lysander wrote: Did you see WHO posted... Did you?? You seem angry.


Natsett Amuinn Caldari Provisions Caldari State Likes received: 2,232	#59 - 2012-10-30 22:00:39 UTC Touval Lysander wrote: Did you see WHO posted... Did you?? Ahh.. Sorry... My bad. He was talking about a communist plot to overthrow a communist regime in a communist thread about the capitalist sector. Got it. thx. No I didn't see who wrote it, I only saw you call someone an FA guy in regards to VFK, and VFK isn't owned by FA.

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Dalketh DRRUSSEL Likes received: 141	#60 - 2012-10-30 22:00:44 UTC Oh good, another day another blatantly phoney post trying to stir up James 315 publicity. It's getting pretty tired.