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Battleship Only Modules - Anathema To EvE Variety?
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Terranid Meester
Tactical Assault and Recon Unit
#1 - 2012-10-30 20:00:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Terranid Meester
Now the future Micro jumpdrive will be battleship only and is a form of Inferno module like the Spectrum Target Breaker etc.

However could it be considered that battleship only modules run against the grain of using oversized modules on undersized ships, after all we can use heavy neuts on cruisers/other ship types, x large shield boosters etc. Sure if the ship is specialised like a heavy interdictor it may make sense to restrict the warp disruption field generator to it, but battleships as a class are not as specialised.

MJD for instance is supposed to get blasters used more but if it is only for bs, how will blaster cruisers fare? Should battleship only modules exist for classes that are not as specialised?
Soon Shin
Scarlet Weather Rhapsody
#2 - 2012-10-30 20:03:37 UTC
Since only scrams shutdown mjd, I think this will be beneficial to torpedoes and blasters. You either have to move in close and get the brunt of their DPS or they will just fly off.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#3 - 2012-10-30 20:05:44 UTC
Just throwing this out there.... maybe, just maybe, CCP is trying to revitalize the experience of flying a BS...

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Terranid Meester
Tactical Assault and Recon Unit
#4 - 2012-10-30 20:07:33 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Just throwing this out there.... maybe, just maybe, CCP is trying to revitalize the experience of flying a BS...


True and they will probably fit better for a battleship however does that mean they shouldn't be available for the other ships to fit?
Zimmy Zeta
Perkone
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-10-30 20:11:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Zimmy Zeta
Battleship only....

I am sensing a great disturbance in the force..

Like thousands of spidertanking pulse-geddons rising from the scrapyards to become kings of the battelfield again..

I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.
usrevenge
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2012-10-30 20:56:42 UTC
if it wasn't BS only, then wouldn't supers and caps be able to use it, I mean that isn't good last I checked.

I don't see the problem with the module yet
Natsett Amuinn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-10-30 21:07:23 UTC
It would allow small fast ships to kite to effectively I would think.

It would give destroyers, who are supposed to be the counter to the frigate (at least that's what I thought the point of a destroy was) to be even more effective against frigates.

Not even sure WTF the point of a cruiser is other than to gank miners.

Don't know about bigger ships.
Terranid Meester
Tactical Assault and Recon Unit
#8 - 2012-11-01 23:51:38 UTC
Well the MJD's do have a 5 minute cooldown, so you wouldn't exactly see frigates/anything else teleporting every 5 seconds.

You have 100MN afterburners that can fit on cruisers. I don't see that much of a problem with a module that only works every 5 minutes and would probably cost considerable cpu and powergrid to fit [might even be too much to fit on a destroyer and frigate].
Name Family Name
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2012-11-02 00:43:07 UTC
It's a band aid to keep flying BS outside PVE or massive blobs remotely viable.

At the current pace, CCP will get around to rebalance BS in what? Two years? Any T1 cruiser will be able to solo a T1 BS after the cruiser buff.

Their last exclusive advantage - large turrets - went out of the window with the introduction of Tier 3 BCs and they use it way better since large turrets main disadvantage - tracking issues - can be mitigated due to their high maneuverabilty if flown correctly.

BS are currently the red-haired stepchild of eve and in dire need of some love, but as I said it's just a band aid and wont save them.

I agree however that making the MJDs being usable on any subcap wouldn't change the fact that about the only thing they'd be viable on would still be a BS, so the restriction could just as well be lifted.
Wacktopia
Fleet-Up.com
Keep It Simple Software Group
#10 - 2012-11-02 00:52:40 UTC
BS needs a revival. Think I've flown a BS three or four times this whole year and if I think about it they just seem like big, clumsy bricks. BS needs some kind of revival IMO.

Kitchen sink? Seriousy, get your ship together -  Fleet-Up.com
Baron vonDoom
Scorn.
#11 - 2012-11-02 02:09:26 UTC
Battleships - a fond memory of the past.
Soon Shin
Scarlet Weather Rhapsody
#12 - 2012-11-05 02:17:23 UTC
With the changes to all the lower end ships battleships could surely use a good look at.


More EHP, more DPS, etc.
Logi Rollins
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2012-11-05 02:29:13 UTC
Soon Shin wrote:
With the changes to all the lower end ships battleships could surely use a good look at.


More EHP, more DPS, etc.


Aren't they being looked into, after this winter update? Cause this update is only going to effect cruisers and smaller. BCs and BS aren't being touch cause they want everything else to be done.
Inquisitor Kitchner
The Executives
#14 - 2012-11-05 03:07:01 UTC

BSs are going to be looked at with BCs for tieracide. My prediction is BCs being placed closer to cuisers than BS EHP wise. At the moment some BCs are closer to BS then cruisers.

E.g.

standardish PvP Caracal = 15K EHP

standard-ish PvP Drake Fleet fit = 80K EHP

standard-ish fleet Rokh = 130K EHP

"If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#15 - 2012-11-05 03:30:06 UTC
Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:

BSs are going to be looked at with BCs for tieracide. My prediction is BCs being placed closer to cuisers than BS EHP wise. At the moment some BCs are closer to BS then cruisers.

E.g.

standardish PvP Caracal = 15K EHP

standard-ish PvP Drake Fleet fit = 80K EHP

standard-ish fleet Rokh = 130K EHP



Some cruisers have craptons of EHP.

I'd say the average is about 30-35k, and my NOmen has 55k.
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2012-11-05 03:31:07 UTC
no more then only certain ships being covert cloak capable