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Miners Unite to Fight the New Order!

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Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#401 - 2012-10-30 07:55:44 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
All this talk about miners not wanting to adapt to anything, being so vile for not being fully "at the keyboard".


I don't think gatecampers are much different.

i would love to see an example of an afk gatecamp

great post herzog
Morrigan LeSante
Perkone
Caldari State
#402 - 2012-10-30 08:04:44 UTC
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
All this talk about miners not wanting to adapt to anything, being so vile for not being fully "at the keyboard".


I don't think gatecampers are much different.

i would love to see an example of an afk gatecamp

great post herzog


Really, AFK has little to do with it [bumping], they disapprove of the activity as a whole//have awesome extortion racket going.
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#403 - 2012-10-30 08:42:36 UTC
Extortion racket? Do you think they care about 10m isk per year?

The payment isn't extortion, it's a compulsory token of good will to show they have embraced the code.
Corvus Idolon
Idolon Industries
#404 - 2012-10-30 08:45:35 UTC
Riot Girl wrote:
Extortion racket? Do you think they care about 10m isk per year?

The payment isn't extortion, it's a compulsory token of good will to show they have embraced the code.


They also aren't being forced to stay in that area.
Morrigan LeSante
Perkone
Caldari State
#405 - 2012-10-30 09:07:19 UTC
Riot Girl wrote:
Extortion racket? Do you think they care about 10m isk per year?

The payment isn't extortion, it's a compulsory token of good will to show they have embraced the code.


The miners? No, its less than the opportunity cost I expect. Which is why I admire it, free isk and not enough to really bother miners about.

A 'compulsory token of goodwill' is an oxymoron though Blink

If you prefer, I suppose the term 'ransom' could also be used.
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#406 - 2012-10-30 09:15:14 UTC
Morrigan LeSante wrote:
A 'compulsory token of goodwill' is an oxymoron though Blink

Then think of it as a symbol of submission. It is necessary for the miners to pay the fee as a sign of humility to help repress any notions of rebellion.
CCP Eterne
C C P
C C P Alliance
#407 - 2012-10-30 09:23:48 UTC
Deleted some trolling and personal attack posts. Don't do that, people.

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Amarr Empire
#408 - 2012-10-30 09:29:03 UTC

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#409 - 2012-10-30 10:31:45 UTC
Ta for the cleanup, some posters were getting a little overexcited, myself included Oops.

What some people fail to realise is that the forums, and some external Eve related sites, are very much part of the metagame, some of those people are new to the game, some are not, either way, it does need to be said that in Eve the metagame is very much part of the game itself.

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Anslo
Scope Works
#410 - 2012-10-30 13:13:46 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Ta for the cleanup, some posters were getting a little overexcited, myself included Oops.

What some people fail to realise is that the forums, and some external Eve related sites, are very much part of the metagame, some of those people are new to the game, some are not, either way, it does need to be said that in Eve the metagame is very much part of the game itself.


While this is true, there are limits to it. There are some lines you just don't cross.

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Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#411 - 2012-10-30 13:31:38 UTC
Anslo wrote:
There are some lines you just don't cross.


I agree. It's a shame to see the miner defence committee resort to flaming and name-calling out of frustration. Even the OP, as a representative for the miners, starts off on an insulting and very unprofessional tirade, singling out an individual for attack. It's no wonder miners have a reputation of being likened to philistines when they present themselves this way.
Anslo
Scope Works
#412 - 2012-10-30 13:49:08 UTC
Riot Girl wrote:
Anslo wrote:
There are some lines you just don't cross.


I agree. It's a shame to see the miner defence committee resort to flaming and name-calling out of frustration. Even the OP, as a representative for the miners, starts off on an insulting and very unprofessional tirade, singling out an individual for attack. It's no wonder miners have a reputation of being likened to philistines when they present themselves this way.


You are misrepresenting my quote. I was referring to James' egging-on posts attempting to solicit abusive reposes on purpose. Please do not take my posts out of contexts for your own purposes. Thank you.

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Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#413 - 2012-10-30 14:02:07 UTC
He hasn't posted in this thread, as far as I'm aware. Do you mean to say he's provoking the miners to flame people in this thread? I'm not sure I fully understand what you mean.
Some Rando
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#414 - 2012-10-30 14:05:12 UTC
Anslo wrote:
Riot Girl wrote:
Anslo wrote:
There are some lines you just don't cross.

I agree. It's a shame to see the miner defence committee resort to flaming and name-calling out of frustration. Even the OP, as a representative for the miners, starts off on an insulting and very unprofessional tirade, singling out an individual for attack. It's no wonder miners have a reputation of being likened to philistines when they present themselves this way.

You are misrepresenting my quote. I was referring to James' egging-on posts attempting to solicit abusive reposes on purpose. Please do not take my posts out of contexts for your own purposes. Thank you.

Makes ambiguous statement, gets mad when someone uses it "out of context".

Also, I have seen far, far worse from miner's compared to anything James of his "agents" have ever typed.

CCP has no sense of humour.

Anslo
Scope Works
#415 - 2012-10-30 14:07:05 UTC
Riot Girl wrote:
He hasn't posted in this thread, as far as I'm aware. Do you mean to say he's provoking the miners to flame people in this thread? I'm not sure I fully understand what you mean.

I'm referring to his website.

Some Rando wrote:

Makes ambiguous statement, gets mad when someone uses it "out of context".

Also, I have seen far, far worse from miner's compared to anything James of his "agents" have ever typed.


Please point out where I was "mad" in that post.

And while your last statement may be true, it still does not make it right.

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Some Rando
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#416 - 2012-10-30 14:10:05 UTC
Anslo wrote:
And while your last statement may be true, it still does not make it right.

Make what right, the statement? If it's true, then it's "right".

CCP has no sense of humour.

Alpheias
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#417 - 2012-10-30 14:10:57 UTC
Anslo wrote:
Riot Girl wrote:
Anslo wrote:
There are some lines you just don't cross.


I agree. It's a shame to see the miner defence committee resort to flaming and name-calling out of frustration. Even the OP, as a representative for the miners, starts off on an insulting and very unprofessional tirade, singling out an individual for attack. It's no wonder miners have a reputation of being likened to philistines when they present themselves this way.


You are misrepresenting my quote. I was referring to James' egging-on posts attempting to solicit abusive reposes on purpose. Please do not take my posts out of contexts for your own purposes. Thank you.


Crikey! He is a cranky one!

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Anslo
Scope Works
#418 - 2012-10-30 14:13:20 UTC
Some Rando wrote:
Anslo wrote:
And while your last statement may be true, it still does not make it right.

Make what right, the statement? If it's true, then it's "right".


Not the statement, the fact that miners take abuse.

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Some Rando
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#419 - 2012-10-30 14:19:52 UTC
Anslo wrote:
Not the statement, the fact that miners take abuse.

See, that's what gets me. Here we're playing a PvP sandbox game and we have a subset of "players" (one wonders why we keep up the pretense, they're actually robots) who "take" abuse. Given that we're:
A. Playing a video game
B. Playing a PvP game
C. Playing a sandbox game
I have to ask why anyone is forced to "take abuse"?

I have no pity, whatsoever, for people who consider themselves "victims" in a video game.

CCP has no sense of humour.

Alpheias
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#420 - 2012-10-30 14:21:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Alpheias
Anslo wrote:
Some Rando wrote:
Anslo wrote:
And while your last statement may be true, it still does not make it right.

Make what right, the statement? If it's true, then it's "right".


Not the statement, the fact that miners take abuse.


I don't think you are stupid enough (though correct me if I am wrong and I'll change this post accordingly) not to notice this; but carebears in general are very loud, self-serving, self-victimizing and goes to length to demonize any group or individual that is enjoying core game design, like PvP.

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