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EVE Online: Incarna 1.1.2 Issues

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Smoking Blunts
ZC Omega
#121 - 2011-10-19 10:12:01 UTC
my ship spins fine. but teh camera focal point is under my ship, so when i zoom in i see the floor. reloging, swapping ships, undocking docking dont fix it. no i am not clearing my cache.
all of the other 6 installs i have work fine

OMG when can i get a pic here
CCP Orion
C C P
C C P Alliance
#122 - 2011-10-19 11:29:59 UTC
Jokath wrote:
I am unable to download the client update. The screen simply never progresses, and of course I can't log in without applying the update. I have not experienced this issue before. I'm also unaware of any manual download for this new update.

PC
version 7.11.304168
Windows XP 64 bit
core i7



Could you file a bug report with as much info as you can provide, logserver log would be very helpful in this case.

Thanks

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CCP Gangleri
C C P
C C P Alliance
#123 - 2011-10-19 11:45:51 UTC
yrag eel wrote:


Same problem here. Mac running 10.5.8. Had previously removed many "unnecessary" languages on my Mac as well.


Please try the generic patch, it acts as a repair tool in cases where the client has been modified:
http://content.eveonline.com//mac/evepremiumpatch304168-mac.tgz

Normal patches do not handle these edge cases since it is more efficient to build them directly from a known good version to the new one. Generic patches take longer to run and download more data than would be necessary for a direct patch.

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Zilero
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#124 - 2011-10-19 11:59:51 UTC
nardaq wrote:
Where is my "disable" station environment aka freeze the ship. (aka COMPLETE DISABLE)

CCP can i haz 0 load on my GPU again while doing nothing in teh stationz?


^^ THIS!

What is the point of GPU load when I'm doing nothing but chatting / using the market etc.

Seriously!

-zil
Saphyrie
Nefantar Expeditionary Force
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#125 - 2011-10-19 13:09:34 UTC
Zilero wrote:
nardaq wrote:
Where is my "disable" station environment aka freeze the ship. (aka COMPLETE DISABLE)

CCP can i haz 0 load on my GPU again while doing nothing in teh stationz?


^^ THIS!

What is the point of GPU load when I'm doing nothing but chatting / using the market etc.

Seriously!

-zil

CCP is in cahoots with your power company. More GPU load means more power consumption.
Coolmer
Kanizsa triangle
#126 - 2011-10-19 13:47:08 UTC
When will you fix that annoying bug with position with overview ... this is very ridiculous that you have two test servers and still can deploy stupid bugs and we must wait ages for fix.
CCP Bella Bee
C C P
C C P Alliance
#127 - 2011-10-19 14:09:29 UTC
We are working on a fix for the overview issue which we are aiming to get out in the coming days. In the meantime there are workarounds outlined in this thread that have worked for some people. And believe me, we're just as frustrated as you are that we didn't catch this in testing. I know it's hard to believe when you see it happen every time you dock or undock, but it's the nature of these things that sometimes they only manifest under conditions that don't occur in our test environment..
jenny threesteps
disasterous industries
#128 - 2011-10-19 16:00:08 UTC
CCP Bella Bee wrote:
Daesis Wrack wrote:
CCP Phantom wrote:


  • Some players may experience their station services and overview windows shrinking to minimum size when they dock or undock.


Is this the sort of thing you'll have a client patch for tomorrow, or is this one gonna linger around for another couple expansions? Cause this is affecting a lot of people and is basically game-breaking.

We are treating this as a high priority issue. And to address the QA question, unfortunately it's one of those issues that only happen under certain circumstances (the details of which we haven't determined yet but part of it is the timing of sequence of events) which didn't occur in our test environment. I know it's hard to believe when you see it happen every time, these are really the most annoying bugs.


well obvious its in ur latest update....
COMM4NDER
Legendary Umbrellas
#129 - 2011-10-19 16:31:34 UTC
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2137335/eveonline/spinning%21.png

Ship spinning, Mother protecting its young offspring. Sure cute but not intentional for sure :)

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Dirk Decibel
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#130 - 2011-10-19 17:21:50 UTC
CCP Bella Bee wrote:
We are working on a fix for the overview issue which we are aiming to get out in the coming days. In the meantime there are workarounds outlined in this thread that have worked for some people. And believe me, we're just as frustrated as you are that we didn't catch this in testing. I know it's hard to believe when you see it happen every time you dock or undock, but it's the nature of these things that sometimes they only manifest under conditions that don't occur in our test environment..

While we all understand no software is ever going to be perfect, these windows/overview bugs seem to happen EVERY SINGLE TIME a major patch is released. And they hardly ever get fixed to full satisfaction. It has gotten to a point that windows jumping all over the place, not remembering their size and issues like that are not even bugs anymore but just normal client behavior for me, until I realize just how ******** that really is....
Sarah Nalelmir
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#131 - 2011-10-19 19:34:51 UTC
Im sure this has been mentioned but

Since the new 1.1.2 my windows will not remain pinned in the correct location. I run on dual monitors and now it seems when i go between space, ship spin mode and CQ mode my windows jump around the place and unsize themselves after being pinned in specific places. This was not an issue with 1.1.1

Also why in ship spin mode is there no ambient background noise ? in CQ mode when you walk up to the platform you hear all the background noise but ship spin is totally dead silent.
zerokmatrix
Federation Mission Acedemy
#132 - 2011-10-19 20:05:08 UTC
I have already posted that I have 3 accounts and on 1 of the 3, ship spinning is not working.

I have noticed that on the same account that is not spinning ships, it is also not loading any player pictures.

Also when I try to spin the ship on the defective account, I have noticed when I left click to start the spin, the cursor changes to the "movement" cursor as expected, but when I move the mouse in any direction the cursor reverts back to the "normal" cursor. It is as if the ship spin is being immediately canceled when the mouse is moved.

PS.
Zilero
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#133 - 2011-10-19 21:28:07 UTC
Sarah Nalelmir wrote:


Also why in ship spin mode is there no ambient background noise ? in CQ mode when you walk up to the platform you hear all the background noise but ship spin is totally dead silent.


Oh god, please don't make CCP give us station noise back again :S, that noise was so annoying it was.... well, I lack words.

-zil
Woo Mi
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#134 - 2011-10-19 21:51:58 UTC
Things work ok (linux/wine) butI now get the following errors in my console:

Traceback (most recent call last):
File "c:/depot/games/branches/release/EVE-TRANQUILITY/carbon/common/lib\bluepy.py", line 86, in CallWrapper
File "bin:/../../carbon/common/script/net/machoNet.py", line 4388, in TransportReader
File "c:/depot/games/branches/release/EVE-TRANQUILITY/carbon/common/lib\log.py", line 300, in LogException
AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'pyos'
Ratklif
Orbidon Galactic Industries
#135 - 2011-10-19 22:21:03 UTC
CCP Orion wrote:
Jokath wrote:
I am unable to download the client update. The screen simply never progresses, and of course I can't log in without applying the update. I have not experienced this issue before. I'm also unaware of any manual download for this new update.

PC
version 7.11.304168
Windows XP 64 bit
core i7



Could you file a bug report with as much info as you can provide, logserver log would be very helpful in this case.

Thanks



I still can't download client update, same as Jokath, on any clients.
Sent bug report yesterday with log server log.

I'm using same operating system, Windows XP 64 bit, if that helps

Would really love to play someday soon.
Zifrian
The Frog Pond
Ribbit.
#136 - 2011-10-19 22:40:27 UTC
Frakir Shedimuthgur wrote:
Platform: PC
My overview windows change size and position randomly after dock / undock. Cleared cache, restarted client... nope still not working properly. Very annoying.


Same

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prstuoko
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#137 - 2011-10-19 22:48:50 UTC
Ratklif wrote:
CCP Orion wrote:
Jokath wrote:
I am unable to download the client update. The screen simply never progresses, and of course I can't log in without applying the update. I have not experienced this issue before. I'm also unaware of any manual download for this new update.

PC
version 7.11.304168
Windows XP 64 bit
core i7



Could you file a bug report with as much info as you can provide, logserver log would be very helpful in this case.

Thanks



I still can't download client update, same as Jokath, on any clients.
Sent bug report yesterday with log server log.

I'm using same operating system, Windows XP 64 bit, if that helps

Would really love to play someday soon.


Same issue here and i am starting to think its a xp64 bug
yrag eel
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#138 - 2011-10-20 01:46:59 UTC
CCP Gangleri wrote:
yrag eel wrote:


Same problem here. Mac running 10.5.8. Had previously removed many "unnecessary" languages on my Mac as well.


Please try the generic patch, it acts as a repair tool in cases where the client has been modified:
http://content.eveonline.com//mac/evepremiumpatch304168-mac.tgz

Normal patches do not handle these edge cases since it is more efficient to build them directly from a known good version to the new one. Generic patches take longer to run and download more data than would be necessary for a direct patch.



Thanks...worked great.
Nyler Yar
Logistics and distribution division
#139 - 2011-10-20 03:32:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Nyler Yar
jahamesh neutron wrote:
CCP Legion wrote:
Lukaya wrote:
The overview/station services resizing issue persists for me even after resetting cache and the whole settings.


Grey Stormshadow wrote:
My "station services"-window and "selected item"-window have moved healthy amount down quite often when entering station or entering space.



Could you try resetting the window positions to default in the ESC menu, Reset Settings, and see if that helps with the overview/station services moving around when docking/undocking?
Not a guaranteed fix, but this seems to do it for a lot of players.


Noticed this on my Mac client. I tried resetting the default window positions in the ESC menu and it did seem to keep my Overview and selected item window positioned correctly. But upon docking my Station Services window was slid down a bit. And as the station environment was loading I noticed that the Selected Item window as still on screen as the Station services window loaded positioned exactly below where the Selected item window was.

This was true of the Overview and Selected Item windows when undocking as well, however the window position reset fixed the problem during the undock. The problem still remains for the Station services window, however.



Had the same problem and after thinking about that for like 30 seconds i figured out what is maybe a temp solution for this game breaking issue and the thing is that the client apparently resizes overview and station services windows trying to fit em both on screen as if they where in the same lets call it "sesion"...and that shouldnt happen because when you are docked overview window is off and vice versa...so...about my temp solution...move the station services window to the top left of the screen (assuming you dont use any other window on that position) so the client dosnt try to resize anything because windows are on different corners of the screen...at least this worked for me and i can live for a few days with the station services window in an anoying position...


MINI WALL OF TEXT RESUMED IN:
EVERY1 TRY TO MOVE STATION SERVICE WINDOW TO THE TOP LEFT SIDE OF THE SCREEN
Desparo
Oberon Incorporated
#140 - 2011-10-20 05:50:55 UTC
Nyler Yar wrote:
jahamesh neutron wrote:
CCP Legion wrote:
Lukaya wrote:
The overview/station services resizing issue persists for me even after resetting cache and the whole settings.


Grey Stormshadow wrote:
My "station services"-window and "selected item"-window have moved healthy amount down quite often when entering station or entering space.



Could you try resetting the window positions to default in the ESC menu, Reset Settings, and see if that helps with the overview/station services moving around when docking/undocking?
Not a guaranteed fix, but this seems to do it for a lot of players.


Noticed this on my Mac client. I tried resetting the default window positions in the ESC menu and it did seem to keep my Overview and selected item window positioned correctly. But upon docking my Station Services window was slid down a bit. And as the station environment was loading I noticed that the Selected Item window as still on screen as the Station services window loaded positioned exactly below where the Selected item window was.

This was true of the Overview and Selected Item windows when undocking as well, however the window position reset fixed the problem during the undock. The problem still remains for the Station services window, however.



Had the same problem and after thinking about that for like 30 seconds i figured out what is maybe a temp solution for this game breaking issue and the thing is that the client apparently resizes overview and station services windows trying to fit em both on screen as if they where in the same lets call it "sesion"...and that shouldnt happen because when you are docked overview window is off and vice versa...so...about my temp solution...move the station services window to the top left of the screen (assuming you dont use any other window on that position) so the client dosnt try to resize anything because windows are on different corners of the screen...at least this worked for me and i can live for a few days with the station services window in an anoying position...


MINI WALL OF TEXT RESUMED IN:
EVERY1 TRY TO MOVE STATION SERVICE WINDOW TO THE TOP LEFT SIDE OF THE SCREEN


Okay this solution actually works for me. Smart thinking Nyler. Your suggestion that its a conflict with those windows sounds quite reasonable.

It is of course completely sucks that I have to play EVE this way.

CCP How about this for a fix in the future. When I check lock pinned windows and I pin a window how about having them NOT MOVE. This issue with random moving windows comes up again and again, year after year. Shows that there is a fundamental flaw in the way you guys treat windows.