EVE General Discussion

How about if a player joins your corp within the first month, and stays in your corp for three months, you get given 1 billion ISK.

That way loads of corps would fight to help new players out and keep them in the game.

No it's important what you say. Because indeed it's half of the problem : as new players depend so much on skills which will take weeks/months to be unlocked, they are limited to repetitive tasks, and after 1-2 months waiting they have enough and leave.
But then if they find the right corpo, they won't see the time pass because they'll share fun with nice people. That's the other half of the problem. Finding the right corpo.

I dont know how the guides are since they revamped them but what makes "eve hard" is a giant differance when you start out.

In most games you can start grinding from day1 with little skills to earn a basic amount of income to have somkind of gear flowing.

In eve the guide doesnt really tell you how important skilling is.
It just tells how to run mission and move your ship around.

This is a major thing.

If you try to grind as a brand new noob your gonna die..alot...i mean really alot....and when your noob you got nothing for income...you cant grind on...

Its what makes eve different then other games and i think most people who quit dont know the differance is there.


You need to skill....and you need to know what to skill.

There should also be a short guide telling the player the importance of joining a player corporation.

I've spent a lot of time with noobs.

Getting them thru their first few weeks without aggravation from tuts is a good start. The most asked about tutorials I've had are the anomaly/exploration tutorials. CCP reworking those is a good idea because many noobs have been confused about them.

Many new players are excited about the prospect of pvp. But there is nothing in the tuts that teach them even the basics of aggro mechanics. When the CQ was introduced I thought it would be a cool idea to actually have a visual tut on the big screen in the CQ showing some of how can baiting/aggro etc.. works. Then let them actually have a mock pvp fight with an NPC. I think that might get the blood pumping a bit. Even give some basic pvp fitting advice. I think CCP has the noobs kept on baby formula while in the starter systems where they don't learn the harsh realities of survival in Eve. I think that is a mistake.

I can't say enough about comms and community- hooking up with some other players quickly over voice chat and you may make lifelong gaming friends. I know I have. There were several times I thought I was done with the game, but I kept coming back just to chat with my buds, and got my interest rekindled in the game.

My first difficulty when i joined - besides the tutorials not being very intuitive - was that I did not know my options and what direction to go in.

Lol, yeah, nice one.

wow srsly? after like 8 years I find the only fun things left are doomsdays and stilettos!

Let's take a look a Goonswarm. Of all the alliances, Goons (possibly TEST as well) have an extremely high percentage of subscribed new players which actually remain active past the two-month milestone. Why is this? In my opinion, it is because that recruits in many of the 0.0 alliances get involved in alliance operations on day one - there is a very positive attitude to getting people involved ASAP.

Unfortunately this isn't the general consensus in EVE - many of the players are not granted access to 0.0 ops in their first few weeks of play. They are often told that it'll require millions of SP and months of experience to have "proper" fun in a null sec alliance. In addition to this false bench-marking of whether or not you're able to fight in 0.0, the majority of 0.0 alliances still have fairly high SP requirements.

One of the best ways to go forward would be to add an FW-like system which would allow newbie's to be enlisted as a tackler in corps which have selected themselves as a recruit-friendly. Expand the tutorial with a tackling and skill-training guide plan, and new players will know how to experience EVE at its best (null sec).

The reason 8/10 people leave in the first month is because they are too cheap to pay for an account after their trial ends.



Yes, because a condor/slasher/executioner/atron with a T1 MWD and T1 disruptor isn't useful right!?!? You don't need to be in a T2 ship to contribute to a fleet you just need to choose a role that doesn't involve dealing DPS or tanking. Namely ewar support, which takes a miniscule amount of time to get into. If you want to do solo stuff, join RvB and fight other newbies that you can find.

Nano ships work too, it takes 3 hours from your character's creation to be able to use T2 nanos.

Thanks for the feedback - all this is VERY interesting for me :)

Keep the experiences with new players flowing. I especially want to hear from less experienced players (few months) as to what were the bits that caused greatest frustration..

correct. they're utterly useless. except for making pounces for the fleet. the lack of mwd bloom bonus makes them utterly useless for tackling anything. perhaps in 2003 when tundragon played eve.. as for rvb. lol. thats just station games and spergers.