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People on Duality are complaining of a massive nerf to Torp ranges.
Is this a bug on Duality or some designed nerf, because I remember reading about the heavy missile nerf, but not the torp nerf.

And the dev's in the Duality channel are ignoring the question.

When the dev's don't know on Duality, and people need a quick answer, GD is the ONLY place that makes sense.

So it can die a quiet death and be completely ignored by the dev's.....

there are more torps than just rage torps, maybe you should try caldari navy torps or javelins? The ones that actually work? Oh wait you can't get faction ammo on the test server because ....no reason.

Well okay. You can use javelins, but you compromise DPS. Since devastating DPS is the main attraction of torps, you have to ask whether or not the range/DPS equation is still what you want.

I use a Rattlesnake build that has long range torps core to its DPS ability. With T1 torps, I can hit (meaningfully) out to 44km. WIth Jevelins, I can hit (meaningfully) out to 50Km. This has strategic implications. This range nerf is not trivial, and cannot be ignored.

Combining this nerf with the drone nerf, I may not be flying my Snake much anymore. It's a pity really. I have no clue where the Dev is driving us, but I don't like it. This does not feel like balance to me at all. It feels like a righteous PITA nerfing process.

You still havent said anything about the actually useful ammo, caldary navy torps? Never use rage torps they have horrible everything in every way and caldari navy torps are ridiculously better in every circumstance.

I am in a Navy Domi atm, on Duality.
I did testing in an Ishtar, which was a disaster for drones.
I did testing in a Vargur, which was a disaster for drones, and since of a bug that TD'ing by NPC's was not showing up, the Vargur test was complete garbage.
I am now testing a Navy Domi, and the results are consistent with the Ishtar.

If I have the emotional strength, I might get into a Navy Raven to test torp range.

And yes, with 90 M SP, I have perfect support skills in all weapons systems, and L5 in all cruisers and BS's, so should be able to get accurate results.

I’ve been on Duality today testing the AI and stuff and although this is not about torpedoes I’ll nevertheless add my findings with standard Scourge Heavy Missiles.

I have a Drake with some Malkuth and some XR-3200 missile launchers and while doing a couple of L3 missions found they were taking much longer than expected, so I compared the statistics with TQ, this is the result;

Drake on TQ;
Range: 73 Km
Malkuth: 24.9 DPS
XR-3200: 27.9 DPS

Same Drake on Duality;
Range: 54 Km
Malkuth: 22.4 DPS
XR-3200: 25.1 DPS

If these results stay the same this will be a substantial reduction in firepower and range for anyone used to long range sniping.

With regards to my Drones (a flight of 5 assorted light drones), for both missions when I deployed them they were ignored, until I was sensor damped, when the aggro switched to the drones. At this point you have to be quick and keep an eye on your drones because they die very quickly.

The fact that you can say this doesnt bother you at all does it.

The Idea of having different ammo for different uses is the same as different ships different uses in all of eve. The very fact that you can make that comment is shamefull to game balance especailly in the face of an even greater nerf to this ammo.

As far as the nerf itself goes this may just be a bug which is why the Devs and others are just ignoring it. This is likely the case if they already found a work around for it. If this indeed is not whats happening then this

http://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=155029&find=unread

Is likely the reason as stated T2 missiles (read as Rage torps) are getting 35% damage buff (read as omgwtf over 1500dps easy golems) but a 16% reduction in speed and major nerfs to explosion radius (honestly i think 72% radius is a bit much)

So basically Torps being close range high dps on ships that cant move fast for any reason. This means your torp ships now have to wait for the blaster boats to MJWD onto you so you cant hit them for any damage while they MWD around you..

Its not nearly as bad as all that. Seems fairly balanced in the long run. using Target painters will be a must have item now is all. Similar to Large guns needing a tracking computer or links.

Ummm...that was never the point of the thread.
Unlike the drone nerf, a torp nerf was never explained.
In fact, I had zero knowledge of a torp nerf until I was on the Duality chat and saw so many people complaining of a huge nerf in range. I questioned the devs's in the channel (at least 2, possibly 3), and they ignored the question.

So I created the thread asking if this was a publicized nerf or yet another in the long long list of bugs with the current Duality iteration.