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Miners Unite to Fight the New Order!

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Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#261 - 2012-10-29 16:45:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Riot Girl
When I first started playing on an old character, I was in a training corp for new players. There were a lot of miners in that corp and they were all extremely stupid. I didn't like them much but I did like their frequent QQ. It made me laugh and sometimes I would taunt them. Looking back now, I wish I'd ganked some of them while I was in that corp. I'm not sure why I didn't think of it at the time.

Oh god.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#262 - 2012-10-29 16:46:46 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:

Sup Bat Country. I heard you were applying Darwinian evolution mechanics to freighters now.


Indeed we are and there seems to be an equal measure of stupid in freighter pilots too.

Robert De'Arneth
#263 - 2012-10-29 16:49:15 UTC
Riot Girl wrote:
When I first started playing on an old character, I was in a training corp for new players. There were a lot of miners in that corp and they were all extremely stupid. I didn't like them much but I did like their frequent QQ. It made me laugh and sometimes I would taunt them. Looking back now, I wish I'd ganked some of them while I was in that corp. I'm not sure why I didn't think of it at the time.




Woe is you, how have continued to play this game. I mean people not acting how you want them to. What is this world coming to.

I'm a nerd, you can check my stats!! Skilling Int/Mem at 45 sp per minute is how I mack!     I'm like a lapdog, all bark no bite. 
Some Rando
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#264 - 2012-10-29 16:50:51 UTC
Dragon Outlaw wrote:
There are miners out there who are excellent PvPers and often welcome good fights.

Do tell.

Also, I wouldn't call them "miners" because they're probably not shitting up the forums asking to be left alone.

CCP has no sense of humour.
Asuri Kinnes
Perkone
Caldari State
#265 - 2012-10-29 16:52:34 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Out of 600 miners killed in the caldari ice interdiction not a single one had a tank fitted.

Out of the 1000+ killed in the first gal ice interdiction fewer than 10% had any sort of a tank fitted.

In the last ice interdiction they had, unsuprisingly, no tank fitted to most of them.


I think its safe to say that the vast bulk of miners do not fit a tank. But by all means go out and run your own tests.

Nope, I'll take your numbers as gospel as presented.

My original point being that out of how many got destroyed, how many actually came to the forums and raged? 1%? 2%? Hell, go out crazy and say 5%???

Because 95% *NOT* raging is not a bad turnout (if it even *was* that low - I'm thinking out of all the thousands you killed the actuall number was <2%).
baltec1 wrote:
Also its funny that barges only got an update after the ice interdictions started and one of those changes was to add more base EHP.

Serendipity is a funny thing.

Bob is the god of Wormholes.

That's all you need to know.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#266 - 2012-10-29 16:53:13 UTC
Riot Girl wrote:
When I first started playing on an old character, I was in a training corp for new players. There were a lot of miners in that corp and they were all extremely stupid. I didn't like them much but I did like their frequent QQ. It made me laugh and sometimes I would taunt them. Looking back now, I wish I'd ganked some of them while I was in that corp. I'm not sure why I didn't think of it at the time.

Ah yes, the famous awox.

Don't worry. At least you got yourself some quality player-driven content to amuse you while playing HIGHSEC ONLINE.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#267 - 2012-10-29 16:58:05 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Ah yes, the famous awox.

Don't worry. At least you got yourself some quality player-driven content to amuse you while playing HIGHSEC ONLINE.


Actually I did. If there was one thing that corp was good for, it was picking up war decs and those of us who did PvP were actually pretty good at it. Our KBs were let down by the miners though, of course.

Oh god.
Vindictive Hoodie
Harvest Operations and Practical Sceinces
#268 - 2012-10-29 17:01:11 UTC
I got bumped... responded to the guy in Local, refused to pay... he took himself off somewhere else after bleating about ways to pay the isk...

I thanked him for the LULZ though... but not sure he was bright enough to cotton on to the fact I was not going to pay as... having responded to him, I was clearly not AFK... and also... coulnd't be ar$ed to ...

I read his link to their website, and then went for an afternoon nap.

Will have another gnaw at rocks later!
Asuri Kinnes
Perkone
Caldari State
#269 - 2012-10-29 17:02:39 UTC
Riot Girl wrote:
Our KBs were let down by the miners though, of course.

because KB > ?

Bob is the god of Wormholes.

That's all you need to know.
Sidrat Flush
School of Applied Knowledge
#270 - 2012-10-29 17:04:38 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Sidrat Flush wrote:
To be the best miner you must accurately mimick a bot.

This is why mining mechanics must change.

Tsk, bot-aspirant behavior.


I don't want to be a bot and I rarely pop the entire rock anyway thus I fit the roid scanner. Sadly the game mechanic involves actions that can very much look like bot behaviour.

It's stupid which is why the side game of avoiding bumpers is a good side game when chat is quiet or eve radio channel is a bit quiet.

Personally know that we know some miners will pay isk not to be bumped I'm going to try to wash in on their generosity and get some of their isk myself.

I wonder if tritanium will go up to ten isk per unit? That would be great but would it mean null sec would then shift production of ships and some modules to their own region? Maybe it has to go up to 14/15 per unit.

Its time to stand up against the bad empire based CEO telling falsehoods about what new characters can accomplish and pushing them towards an in game experience of drudgery and loneliness keeping them in the shadow of ignorance for at nest their own profit at worse apathy towards all the experiences that Eve has to offer.
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#271 - 2012-10-29 17:05:12 UTC
Asuri Kinnes wrote:
Riot Girl wrote:
Our KBs were let down by the miners though, of course.

because KB > ?


A training corp with a bad KB is an easy target.

Oh god.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#272 - 2012-10-29 17:05:24 UTC  |  Edited by: baltec1
Asuri Kinnes wrote:

Nope, I'll take your numbers as gospel as presented.

My original point being that out of how many got destroyed, how many actually came to the forums and raged? 1%? 2%? Hell, go out crazy and say 5%???

Because 95% *NOT* raging is not a bad turnout (if it even *was* that low - I'm thinking out of all the thousands you killed the actuall


It was enough to convince CCP to buff the EHP of a ship with a better base tank than some of the heavy assault ships. They might be few in number but they have proven to have a disgustingly effective ability to remove playstles we have enjoyed for close to a decade for no other reason than because they lack a spine and think they should be 100% safe.
Kainotomiu Ronuken
koahisquad
#273 - 2012-10-29 17:08:32 UTC
Robert De'Arneth wrote:

And knowing where I *live* is going to make me pay you? How are you going to make me pay you is my next question? I can move around, I could hop in another ship. My point is sir, you cannot ever make me pay you 1 isk. You think because the op is crying that every miner is going to cry. Your mining bump means squat to me. I can do other things, I could even move to a new system and keep making you follow me. But one thing you will never do is make me pay isk for getting bumped. LOL. I have 2 kids, I know how to deal with children. Your issue is this, you think these forums paint a picture of everyone who plays this game. So if you want to come extort from me, do your own looking. Just know you will waste quite a bit of time. I am also one of those AFK cloakers everyone cries about. Big smile I will leave the game on all day while cloaked. Shocked

You are quite funny.

I'm afraid that you have woefully misunderstood the purpose of the New Order of Hisec, as well as the purpose of individual bumpers and the purpose of my asking where you live.

You see, the Order is not motivated by profit. Neither are its Agents. If we wanted to make money, we'd be doing something else.

What we want is to educate miners, to force them, by our actions, to take up arms or to find a way to evade us. If they are doing this, they're actively contributing to EVE as a game, rather than being semi-bots AFKing in a belt all day. If they're out ratting or PVPing or even station trading rather than mining, then we have succeeded.

As you can see, you are therefore not the intended target. I have no interest in forcing you to pay for a mining permit. Congratulations.
Morrigan LeSante
Perkone
Caldari State
#274 - 2012-10-29 17:16:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Morrigan LeSante
Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:
What we want is to educate miners, to force them, by our actions, to take up arms or to find a way to evade us. If they are doing this, they're actively contributing to EVE as a game, rather than being semi-bots AFKing in a belt all day. If they're out ratting or PVPing or even station trading rather than mining, then we have succeeded.


This would be more believable if you left people not afk alone, but you don't so it's not remotely plausible.

It is, however, still hilarious. As you were (just at least be honest about it Blink)
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#275 - 2012-10-29 17:18:28 UTC
Morrigan LeSante wrote:
Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:
What we want is to educate miners, to force them, by our actions, to take up arms or to find a way to evade us. If they are doing this, they're actively contributing to EVE as a game, rather than being semi-bots AFKing in a belt all day. If they're out ratting or PVPing or even station trading rather than mining, then we have succeeded.


This would be more believable if you left people not afk alone, but you don't so it's not remotely plausible.

It is, however, still hilarious. As you were (just at least be honest about it Blink)


You dont have to be AFK to be a bad minerBlink
Kainotomiu Ronuken
koahisquad
#276 - 2012-10-29 17:20:09 UTC
Morrigan LeSante wrote:
This would be more believable if you left people not afk alone, but you don't so it's not remotely plausible.

IT is, however, still hilarious. As you were (just at least be honest about it Blink)

Yeah, we hear this a lot. However, the New Order also views miners (even at their keyboards) as having a greater-than-desirable level of bot aspiration. I mean, seriously, even if they're there, they're still accomplishing tasks that have an effect on EVE's economy without actually doing anything.

So yeah. It doesn't awfully matter if you're AFK or not, you're still a bot aspirant.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#277 - 2012-10-29 17:21:34 UTC
Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:
What we want is to educate miners, to force them, by our actions, to take up arms or to find a way to evade us. If they are doing this, they're actively contributing to EVE as a game, rather than being semi-bots AFKing in a belt all day. If they're out ratting or PVPing or even station trading rather than mining, then we have succeeded.

As you can see, you are therefore not the intended target. I have no interest in forcing you to pay for a mining permit. Congratulations.

Bravo *clap*

Op success.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Asuri Kinnes
Perkone
Caldari State
#278 - 2012-10-29 17:23:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Asuri Kinnes
baltec1 wrote:
Asuri Kinnes wrote:

Nope, I'll take your numbers as gospel as presented.

My original point being that out of how many got destroyed, how many actually came to the forums and raged? 1%? 2%? Hell, go out crazy and say 5%???

Because 95% *NOT* raging is not a bad turnout (if it even *was* that low - I'm thinking out of all the thousands you killed the actuall


It was enough to convince CCP to buff the EHP of a ship . . .

Do you have proof that it was actually the "miners" whining that resulted in this change by CCP? Not trying to be pedantic here, but tbqh - the whole "miner in hi-sec = the devil" seems like a manufactured controversy to me.
Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:
[I'm afraid that you have woefully misunderstood the purpose of the New Order of Hisec

Which has been manufactured entirely to get J315 (an alt of whoever) elected to the CSM...

Roll

Bob is the god of Wormholes.

That's all you need to know.
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#279 - 2012-10-29 17:24:52 UTC
Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:
bot aspirant.

That sounds like quite a serious personality disorder. It's good you're making an effort to help those who can't help themselves.

Oh god.
Morrigan LeSante
Perkone
Caldari State
#280 - 2012-10-29 17:26:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Morrigan LeSante
Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:
Morrigan LeSante wrote:
This would be more believable if you left people not afk alone, but you don't so it's not remotely plausible.

IT is, however, still hilarious. As you were (just at least be honest about it Blink)

Yeah, we hear this a lot. However, the New Order also views miners (even at their keyboards) as having a greater-than-desirable level of bot aspiration. I mean, seriously, even if they're there, they're still accomplishing tasks that have an effect on EVE's economy without actually doing anything.

So yeah. It doesn't awfully matter if you're AFK or not, you're still a bot aspirant.


Perhaps you want to spread the word internally then, I see a lot of these posts saying "don't be afk duh...." as if it will help


Btw - they affect little more or even less than market players who are never undocking Smile

Finally, as a full time mission bear I find the idea that ratting is in any way better hilarious. Mine, rat, its all the same: ctrl+click F1, ctrl+click F1, ctrl+click F1, ctrl+click F1.


Though don't mistake this post for a "waaaaa stop it" as I said, it is hilarious - as you were Pirate