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Womrhole time managment

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LoompaLand Ballr
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-10-29 05:04:17 UTC
Not sure this is the right place for this, but this is a broad question to the eve community.

I currently have a pretty busy life between classes, social excursions, and real life in general. I want to figure out where would be best for me to go to make a steady income and steadily find something to do whenever I have some free time.

My play style right now is an hour or two here and there, in the evening before bed. And the occasional 6 hour run when I've got a lazy sunday night to kill. Where would be the best place to go to play and make a steady income under these time restricted circumstances? Right now I fly incursions- and it is fantastic income, during the 6 hour sesh's when I can afford to wait an hour to find a fleet. Normally though, I spend an hour finding a fleet then maybe an hour running sites then I have to leave. Would running c4 sites and living in a wh be better? I guess what im asking is in regards to wormhole livers: when you login, do you wait around for a fleet to join, or can you pretty much always find something to immediately do that keeps you occupied and gets you isk? If i were to login say 1-2 hours per day at irregular times (and usually not even every day), would wh life be a bad choice? even living in an established and well defended pos? or would joining a SOV Null sec corp and mining/running sites in a SOV system be a better choice? (yes, im cool with PVP- as long as im doing something im happy)
Comy 1
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2012-10-29 06:21:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Comy 1
All I have to say is that wormholes is good income compared to high sec activities no matter what kind of level you are on. E.g. if you are a newbie and run lvl 4s slow in a drake compared to running e.g. c2 sites or doing high end incursion grinding compared to capital escalations.

With that said having 1-2 hours to spend MIGHT become a big problem in wormholes if you want to do something every day unless you have friends with more time on their hands joining you. And then I'm talking friends you have known for a while that is willing to help you out. Random WH corps will probably not recruit and especially keep anyone who just log in for the good stuff. Seeing how this preparation phase might take a huge part of your limited online time on a regular day you might be better off somewhere else.

Atleast I would not even consider doing PvE in a wormhole without probing and scouting everything out, collapse all random spawned wormholes and roll my static to minimize the risk of having people arround that already probed your system (now said people could always just stick arround cloked and probe their way out later, but that risk you can't really eliminate).

And lastly, living in a wormhole will require most people to actually show some initiative. Sure there are probably lots of bloated organisations living in wormholes where most people just sit arround waiting for a fleet, but I would guess most people would be bored out of their mind from the waiting since the lazy person will just end up sitting in a POS in a maze that he/she cant get out of.
Graff Spee
Lonercorp
#3 - 2012-10-29 06:51:59 UTC
To be honest, the limited time frame leaves little to do in eve. There are missions, and then there's mining. That's all I can really recommend on such a limited time budget. Personally, I do missions with such limited time. Waiting an hour to do incursions reduces your isk effectiveness to half, and incursions aren't that much more lucrative than lvl 4s.
Pancake King
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-10-29 07:01:58 UTC
If you find a corp that is really, really generous, you could make a heap o' isk in an hour or two in WH space.

That being said, you'd be incredibly lucky. Generally speaking, you need to pitch in and do the pre-sleeper farming business too. Scan down WHs, roll WHs to find juicy statics etc. I don't know, maybe some WH corps don't mind if you don't, but I would.
Wolvun
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2012-10-29 11:07:48 UTC
TBH i don't think WH life is for you with such limited time you have available. There is a lot of downtime,lurking and waiting in WH's and its not instant PVE or PVP.
Archdaimon
Merchants of the Golden Goose
#6 - 2012-10-29 11:14:16 UTC
Well had your attitude been, I'm ok with pve as long as I have something to do, you might have an easier time, than you being ok with pvp :D

Wormholes have the best accoustics. It's known. - Sing it for me -

RingRaith
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2012-10-29 11:32:54 UTC
There's not much I hate more than people who are AFK or log off when there is scanning or WH rolling to do but then suddenly are back when it's time to make some isk. If you go in to a corp thinking you could do that you probably wont make many friends.

However, with one or two hours rime there's nothing stopping you from scanning a c1/2 from high/lowsec and doing anoms. Just be careful as 9.9 times out of 10 there are people living there and you are fairly likely to be attacked. Best to do this in a drake or some other cheapish BC. Have a probe launcher fitted or better yet a probe launcher fitted plus a cloaky probing salvaging alt.

For times when you have 5 or 6 hours available, then being in a corp would be good as long as people are online).
Durzel
Questionable Ethics.
Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
#8 - 2012-10-29 11:46:09 UTC
So long as you write off your ship I don't see any real issue with just jumping into wormholes from highsec and running the sites. If you use a Drake you will make the cost of it back in one site, and it has the fringe benefit of being fairly boring to gank, and has the benefit that a random bomber won't be able to kill you solo.

As much as it might be tempting I wouldn't consider using a Tengu solo to do wormhole sites. A Tengu is a much more attractive target, and will take longer to pay off when you get ganked.

The obvious thing to bear in mind is that the easier and safer it is for you to reach a wormhole, the easier it is for others too. Wormholes that always connect to highsec will statistically have more visitors than one that has a static lowsec entrance.
Feng Chow
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2012-10-29 12:23:09 UTC
I'm now sure how much PI will get you, but I hear that only takes a few mins a day, and if you own the custom's offices you don't have to pay to get your resources off the planet.

Kalel Nimrott
Caldari Provisions
#10 - 2012-10-29 16:39:22 UTC
C3, but you may be farmed a lot if you are not careful.

Bob Artis, you will be missed.

O7

Svodola Darkfury
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2012-10-29 21:04:33 UTC
Wolvun wrote:
TBH i don't think WH life is for you with such limited time you have available. There is a lot of downtime,lurking and waiting in WH's and its not instant PVE or PVP.


Agreed. Nullsec anoms may be a good alternative, its about the same isk as high sec missions without a really pimped ship but gets you out there where some pvp is possible if thats your sort of thing.

Svo.

Director of Frozen Corpse Industries.

Kaver Linkovir
Hoplite Brigade
Ushra'Khan
#12 - 2012-11-03 20:40:59 UTC
Having lived in a wormhole I do think the time you have for EVE wouldn't be enough to make the most of the experience.

I would recomend Faction Warfare as an alternative, preferably in an active corporation. It would allow you to go out and shoot stuff as well as have acess to high yield PVE content and expeditions elsewhere in eve are always a possible depending on the fleets running.
Beta Bank
Dig Bicks Emporium
#13 - 2012-11-08 04:17:04 UTC
I have to disagree here.

Find a c2 with c2/ls statics.
Spend two weeks making same account toons for PI.
PI over 3 toons will net you a nice profit more or less passively once you get it down you could probably run all 3 toons over 30mins.Planets in WH are >/= Nullsec quality.
A c2 site can be solo'd in around 15-20mins in a drake but the profits can vary due to random ribbion drops.
The static C2 will provide you with plenty of farming opps and pew if thats your thing.
The lowsec static as well as giving you a daily exit to empire easily will also provide you lowsec exploration sites and the like.
For your large dickstar POS buy the modules needed to react t3 gas for when you find gas sites.

Obviously the thing to consider is POS = Fuel = ISK so when your not playing its costing you.That said i think you could easily turn over 2bil a month with a couple of hours play a day.

Make one day per week logistics day and you should be sweet mate.

Tyollo
Prision Break Inc.
#14 - 2012-11-08 15:44:23 UTC
I'm living in a C3 and have a time of their next game.
I use 2 accounts and given the short time focus on the industrial area because the option of offline revenue.

Alone in a WH you probably will not have PVE enough to entertain you. But that's not the only thing you can do in the WH. It has gas and mining sites that take several days to complete. Outside the option to post the reactions, produce items and everything else for a ride and end up looking for a PVP for fun.