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Getting bored by Wreck Thiefs
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Kitty Stormwarden
STORM EXPLORATION INDUSTRIES
#1 - 2011-10-18 20:10:53 UTC
I smashed my way through a cheaky lvl 4 mission today, as the last Battleship fell to the withering fire from my Rohk's Rail Guns I noticed a cheeky beggar stealing the Wrecks in my mission site. I would have thought this was as bad as stealing out of someones can? I would have taken great pleasure in obliterating the offenders Cormorant but alas.....not allowed. I am just curious why the game mechanics always seem to have loopholes that protect the bad guys. They are even being sneaky about it, making an alt in a noob corp is just plain cowardice as they truly are untouchable. I wonder if he would have done that if I was allowed to shoot him.....probably not.

It is a lame practice and IMHO should be as punishable as stealing out of cans is.
RomeStar
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#2 - 2011-10-18 20:59:25 UTC
Really? Was your makeup kit in those cans because your avatar sure needs it.

Signatured removed, CCP Phantom
Alice Saki
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#3 - 2011-10-18 21:02:02 UTC
Em.... Not a good Move this is the Bad Guy part of the Forum, Expect Flames.

FREEZE! Drop the LIKES AND WALK AWAY! - Currenly rebuilding gaming machine, I will Return.
Valhallas
New Eden Robotics
#4 - 2011-10-18 21:16:55 UTC
U need ur back door kicked in.

That would sort you out.Blink
DeliciousHamBeast
The Elenianlightenment
#5 - 2011-10-18 21:34:49 UTC
Whatevs little miss "I describe everything by the adjective 'Cheeky'", this 'beggar' was likely just an interstellar garbageman, cleaning up all the rubble and junk you left behind.

-- Beep Beep Imma Jeep.
Tabernack en Chasteaux
Phoibe Enterprises
#6 - 2011-10-18 21:34:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Tabernack en Chasteaux
Kitty Stormwarden wrote:
the piddling fire from my Rohk's Rail Guns


FTFY. Also, working as intended.
kiki mo
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
#7 - 2011-10-18 23:00:21 UTC
Kitty Stormwarden wrote:
I smashed my way through a cheaky lvl 4 mission today, as the last Battleship fell to the withering fire from my Rohk's Rail Guns I noticed a cheeky beggar stealing the Wrecks in my mission site. I would have thought this was as bad as stealing out of someones can? I would have taken great pleasure in obliterating the offenders Cormorant but alas.....not allowed. I am just curious why the game mechanics always seem to have loopholes that protect the bad guys. They are even being sneaky about it, making an alt in a noob corp is just plain cowardice as they truly are untouchable. I wonder if he would have done that if I was allowed to shoot him.....probably not.

It is a lame practice and IMHO should be as punishable as stealing out of cans is.


Due to the many correctly spelled words in your post, I was able to determine that you'd like to turn your 'withering fire from your Rohk's Rail Guns' to obliterate a 'wreck theif'...apparently the guy in the cormorant wasn't even stealing, otherwise he would have been red to you and you could have shot him.

But I digress. Where are you smashing your way through 'cheaky' level 4 missions? Please contact me ingame with your system, station and times you run missions, and I'll arrange a meeting where you'll be able to 'witheringly obliterate wreck theifs...those cheeky beggars' until your heart is content.
SC0T1SH WARRIOR
Zero For 0wned
#8 - 2011-10-18 23:47:38 UTC
Eve Wiki wrote:
" The cargo is owned by the player who destroyed the ship, while the wreck is not considered to be owned by anyone (though the person owning the loot is the only one that may tractor them).


>the wreck is not considered to be owned by anyone

Working as intended.

Thanks for the free stuff.

Dont mind me,  just touching your stuff.
Tora Oni
Legendary Sidekicks in Space
#9 - 2011-10-18 23:53:22 UTC
Just do as many of us do...... have a Noctis follow the shooties. Its just part of the game. You are just not yet used to it as being a carebear HS player probably. Blink
Ammzi
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#10 - 2011-10-19 02:05:48 UTC
Alice Saki wrote:
Em.... Not a good Move this is the Bad Guy part of the Forum, Expect Flames.


Ha! I love how EVE forums make me laugh out loud even at *checks time* 4 am!
Indeed this is the Bad Guy part of the forums Lol
SC0T1SH WARRIOR
Zero For 0wned
#11 - 2011-10-19 02:29:00 UTC
Tora Oni wrote:
Just do as many of us do...... have a Noctis follow the shooties. Its just part of the game. You are just not yet used to it as being a carebear HS player probably. Blink


Thanks for tractoring that stuff nice and close for me.

Dont mind me,  just touching your stuff.
Angry Onions
League of Angered Gentlemen
#12 - 2011-10-19 03:24:35 UTC
Why do you whine n complain to the people who do this as a habit for lolz? Your just gonna get a greater swarm of them. Btw shuttup pubbie, no one said you can speak.

S H I T P O S T I N G
Herr Wilkus
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC
#13 - 2011-10-19 06:11:42 UTC
Was he this particularly fat major who called you a 'cheeky fellow?'
Drake Draconis
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2011-10-19 06:31:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Drake Draconis
Kitty Stormwarden wrote:
I smashed my way through a cheaky lvl 4 mission today, as the last Battleship fell to the withering fire from my Rohk's Rail Guns I noticed a cheeky beggar stealing the Wrecks in my mission site. I would have thought this was as bad as stealing out of someones can? I would have taken great pleasure in obliterating the offenders Cormorant but alas.....not allowed. I am just curious why the game mechanics always seem to have loopholes that protect the bad guys. They are even being sneaky about it, making an alt in a noob corp is just plain cowardice as they truly are untouchable. I wonder if he would have done that if I was allowed to shoot him.....probably not.

It is a lame practice and IMHO should be as punishable as stealing out of cans is.


If he had actually given you the opportune moment to shoot.

You'd be a ship down and likely a tidy sum of ISK (in your terms) short.

Too bad...this would make your thread more tearful...and a lot less whiny.

PS: If you didn't catch the subtlety... he didn't steal from you...according to the game mechanics. I'm sure (already have) people will offer opportunity for you try.

PS2: Only "Cheeky" thing I see here is your avatar's face...sorry to say.

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Skunk Gracklaw
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#15 - 2011-10-19 07:36:35 UTC
Kitty Stormwarden wrote:
I smashed my way through a cheaky lvl 4 mission today, as the last Battleship fell to the withering fire from my Rohk's Rail Guns

lol roleplaying
SC0T1SH WARRIOR
Zero For 0wned
#16 - 2011-10-19 10:20:55 UTC
Kitty Stormwarden wrote:
Blah.


On a more important note, i just realized your avatar looks unusually like a crackheaded prostitute i used to go to school with.

Dont mind me,  just touching your stuff.
Larg Kellein
Bacon Appreciation Society
#17 - 2011-10-19 10:33:27 UTC
I think I'll just leave this here...

Per CCP Mitnal:
CCP Mitnal wrote:
"Our policy on this is extremely clear... Salvaging is a mini-profession within EVE and does not constitute stealing."

Per GM Faolchu :
GM Faolchu wrote:
Salvaging other peoples wrecks.... This is an intended game mechanic and is in no way an exploit. People salvaging your missions npcs or the player you just blew up are doing nothing wrong. The players are salvaging what is effectively floating rubbish in space and Concord places no value on this wreckage.
Eve is a harsh place you won't always have everything go your way, its a do or die world and people do what they can to get along. If salvaging some wreckage gets them a few more ISK someone will do it, it doesn't matter who just blew it up.

Per Senior GM Ytterbium :
GM Ytterbium wrote:
Players are still completely free to salvage other pilot wrecks at will ... and doing so is not considered as an exploit.

Per CCP Prism X :
CCP Prism X wrote:
Why is stealing salvage OK? It's not. It shouldn't even be possible to move an item from your cargo-hold / hanger to another persons cargo-hold / hanger without opening a trade window. Before the salvage enters those containers it is not considered your stuff by the server code. Hence it's not stealing.

Per CCP Incognito :
CCP Incognito wrote:
Had a chat with some designers this evening.
Ninja salvaging is intended game play. It was always intended that the wrecks are public, the loot is private.
They do not see it as a problem if others salvage your wrecks.

(These quotes are kept handy for your convenience at Ironfleet.com.)
Tora Oni
Legendary Sidekicks in Space
#18 - 2011-10-19 11:25:43 UTC
So you're saying its an exploit Twisted Ooo noooo.... runawayyyy......
Solomar Espersei
Quality Assurance
#19 - 2011-10-19 14:52:18 UTC
OP

Please submit the name of this amateur in the cormorant class space vessel to me at your earliest convenience. If he was not "red" to you in your mission space, he is clearly in need of instruction from the professionals in our alliance. Such poor customer service by a non-union ninja is an affront to the profession and the upstart needs to be shown the error of his ways. Now, please be so kind as to relocate to the Dodixie mission hub so that our trained professionals can service you... er.. something like that.

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Buruk Utama
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#20 - 2011-10-19 15:17:32 UTC
I thought it was a given rule that if you were running lvl 4 without a Noc alt then you didn't want the wrecks and only interested in blitzing. Is that no longer true?Oops
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