Missions & Complexes

Back to eve after long break. Thought I blow some of my billions of faction mission toys. I used to dabble with agent missions back in 2005-6 with my raven before I discovered pvp and not done any since then.
So thought I would build a faction CN raven and was surprised at the difference it had over the regular Raven. Big difference.
So I thought I would try the Mach in Minnie space and it made the CN Raven look like a noob ship. The Mach is awesome.
So I thought I would try a Nightmare our in Amaar space and I am disappoint.

Ok most of my skills are near Lvl 5 for everything being an 04 char, but I find that though EFT stats look ok, in practice, my guns miss a lot or my tank sucks. Ok I admit I ran into gurista and Eom rats, and maybe sansha and mordu would be better but am I doing something wrong with this setup

[Nightmare, Tachs pve fix]
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Damage Control II

Pith A-Type X-Large Shield Booster
Dread Guristas Adaptive Invulnerability Field
Caldari Navy EM Ward Field
Kinetic Deflection Field II
Caldari Navy Shield Boost Amplifier
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
Republic Fleet 100MN Afterburner

Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Standard L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Small Tractor Beam II
[empty high slot]

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I


Acolyte II x5
Infiltrator II x5

And I hate 800 cap booster, they take too much space.
Multifrequncy has crap range probably accounting for the misses.

you don't want a cap stable nghtmare, fitting a cap booster, like you have done, is the way to go.
you don't need much of a cargo bay. missions where you do, you can drop enough charges to create room without having to worry.

running with a couple of tracking computers in the meds helps, 1 for optimal, 1 for tracking speed. - i'd lose the afterburner and invuln field for these. also lose the damage control for a tracking enhancer. big part of the Nm's tank is it's gank. suppose you could try the invul field with a tracnknig computer loaded witha tracking speed script.
i'd also use a couple of large semiconductor memory cells for rigs plus an EM defencive one to help plug the EM hole.

ditch the amarr drones and use hobs/hammers, they're the best all round for missions.

The nightmare isn't great against Gurista, they're best to use in amarr space. The range you want to engage is round 40km/ fall off of 80km. you'll be able to 1 shot frigs. when they get close though, theres no point shooting them you'll have to use drones.
cruisers can be the same, but very rare.

i've no experiance with pulses, only tachs.

hope this helps.

the reason you are missing is cos you have no tracking mods at all.
you should have 3 tracking comps and a tracking enhancer.

this is the nightmare fit i generally recommend:



note that you should only be doing missions vs sansha or blood raiders in a nightmare, hence the em/therm rigs.
cap stable mission fits are for scrubs, chuck that cap booster on there. it's not like the boosters cost anything.

this ship does 1240dps with implants, your tank is in the high slots.

You don't need 3 TC's, remember the NM gets a tracking bonus. My fit is similar to the above except I have a sensor booster instead of the 3rd TC's. Helps to target and pop them before they get too close. Not sure if you using Gleam, but I find it works better than navy multi for hitting ships closer than 20km.
If I could have selectable damage, I would use my NM instead of my mach in all missions Love it...

I like this fit. However, a couple of comments. You can get away with one less tracking comp as stated elsewhere. The faction TC are expensive but at least one (the second and third matter less because of staacking nerf) should be faction. The empty high for ATS is great - more targets, never activate the thing.....
The CN INV can be switched out to a Pith C type for not much more money and significantly better resists.....

Put enough resist mods (I use 4 deadspace in mids) on and you don't need the boosters. I only actually have to use my shield booster in every fourth or so mission.

4 heat sinks, a tracking enhancer and an unscripted tracking computer works just fine for me.

That is way too expensive of a fit for missions. The NM doesn't need cap stability and the only faction stuff you need is heat sinks and a shield booster.

Here is the setup I use for all my Amarr and Gallente lvl 4 missions.


Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Tracking Enhancer II

Gist C-Type X-Large Shield booster
Adaptive Invulnerability Field of your choosing
Mission specific Shield Hardener
Mission Specific Shield Hardener
Tracking Computer II
Tracking Computer II
Cap Booster or Afterburner (I run AB)

Imperial Navy Mega Pulse Laser
Imperial Navy Mega Pulse Laser
Imperial Navy Mega Pulse Laser
Imperial Navy Mega Pulse Laser
Small Tractor Beam II
Drone Link

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I


Ditch the Tachs as well as any T2 guns, sure the alpha is nice on the tachs and you get to brag about it but T2 guns and especially Tachs are just too power hungry and will put allot of strain on your already weak cap situation. You will also get more real damage out the Mega Pulse Lasers because of the better tracking. Lasers change ammo types in 1 second and you will need that with the pulse lasers. Always have at least 2 sets of 3 different range types. Multifrequency (- 50% range) , Standard (0% Range), and Radio (+ 60% Range). Also need 2 scripts for the tracking computers, 2 Tracking speed and 2 Optimal Range. Load the optimal range scripts for the long range targets and tracking speed scripts for the orbiting cruisers and frigs, yes you can hit 5km orbiting frigs. There is allot of versatility in this setup range wise, you just have to be smart on how to apply it.

I like the C-type SB because its more than enough to tank all my missions and it’s much more forgiving when I accidentally leave it on for longer than I need but the A type is a very nice unit. I would run with a Cap booster until you are comfortable with the setup and then ditch it for an AB.

If you are comfortable with how you fly the ship and handle your missions I would ditch the DCU for a tracking enhancer, the more dps you can apply the faster you can get done. Time is money.

I can alpha cruisers and sometime BCs in my missions with the pulse lasers. Very rarely does it take more than 3 shots to down one, most of the time its 2 shot per cruiser/BC.

Trying to run cap stable for missioning is a waste of time and money if you are not an afk missioner. If you are cap stable then you need to remove some cap modules and fit some damage/tracking modules. I believe my setup expires in 3 or 4 minutes which is more than enough time to get out of any sticky situation I have been in.

Rats usually melt before they get within 20km, and I always target the frigates first.

Hope this helps! If you have any questions you can always contact me ingame.

Don’t knock it before you try it EFT warrior.

[sarcasm]I’m sorry for posting such a bad fit [/sarcasm]

What would you suggest I change to make it better?