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AFK Stealth Pilots in 0.0
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Lyrrashae
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#61 - 2012-10-28 20:48:27 UTC
Opertone wrote:
Single AFK cloaker can not do much. [...]


"Cynos' up, cyno's up --bring it, bring it, bring it, BRING IT, BRING IT!!" (DNSBlack, best EVE battle-call ever.)

It doesn't take that long to train Cyno Field Theory and Recons to 5...Twisted

I <3 cloaky-cloaky!

Ni.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#62 - 2012-10-28 21:33:34 UTC
Lyrrashae wrote:
Cloaky-cloaky cat says:

I are in ur system, but u no see'z meh!

Only in local Smile

Better nerf local.

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Lyrrashae
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#63 - 2012-10-29 00:43:37 UTC
They see me in local.

They can't find me in space.

They be hatin'.

Am I really AFK? Or not? Psych-warfare, I love it :)

Ni.
Johan Civire
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#64 - 2012-10-29 00:47:34 UTC
Buy a scanner search them kill them. Is that a answer you want to hear .... no to bad.
Azumi Zimu
#65 - 2012-10-29 00:50:15 UTC
The same people who complain about seeing cloakers in local are the ones who violently oppose removing local.

Why they're in 0.0 in the first place, I don't know. They clearly want to feel 100% safe.
Maggeridon Thoraz
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#66 - 2012-10-29 01:23:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Maggeridon Thoraz
i was allays for removing local for nullsec working like in wh.
but i have read some good arguement for people who going to search for fighst that they need local.
also read the arguement for stealth ships like recons and sb etc to gather intel without ever beeing seen.


what about changing the mechanics like that:
all ships that have a cloak fitted have a 5 to 10 sec timer that delays their show up in local if they jump into a system. ,via gates, (covert) cynos, wh or whatever i have forgot now to mention.

when they cloak up within that time they will not show up, if they show up in local and cloak again they s disapear in local again after 5 to 10 sec ...

with that mechanic stealth ships can gather intel without ever beeing noticed if no one is active watching gates. wh would become even more intersing for useing pathes and and might increase some pvp in wh ... afk whiner would not whine anymore because the cloaky is not a psycholical thread to their own mind...

the null sec peolpe who are roaming or camoping can still see the fleets etc ... i think this would be a win situaltion for all. why not having this mechanic not even in low and hisec at all
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#67 - 2012-10-29 01:29:49 UTC
Lyrrashae wrote:
They see me in local.

They can't find me in space.

They be hatin'.

Am I really AFK? Or not? Psych-warfare, I love it :)

They see me cloakin'

(They don't actually)

They hatin'

They probin'

Trying to catch me rollin' UNCLOAKED

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Wacktopia
Fleet-Up.com
Keep It Simple Software Group
#68 - 2012-10-29 01:29:50 UTC
It still surprises me when I want to find a system to be alone in and I find in a couple of jumps. Really EVE is a very empty place in parts.

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Shizuken
Venerated Stars
#69 - 2012-10-29 05:35:01 UTC
Hocico wrote:
Hi,

what can we do against afk stelth pilots in 0.0 ? Nothing !!!

She wait any hours and we cant mining, ratting ore others.... attacks comes only vs mining Barges ore infight Ships and are rar....


CCP we need a tactic against this idiots.... thats not pvp.


AFK waiting for 4 ore more hours is an Exploit.


Hoc



Try bringing some friends as a combat escort. Say 1 Orca, 3 Hulks, 2 Fast Attack, and 1 BC or BS. That should be good against most 2-3 man pirate squads. Tank the industrials so if they go after those first then you can own them with your escorts. And if they go after the escorts you have time to warp off.
TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
#70 - 2012-10-29 08:24:35 UTC
Hocico wrote:
Hi,

what can we do against afk stelth pilots in 0.0 ? Nothing !!!

She wait any hours and we cant mining, ratting ore others.... attacks comes only vs mining Barges ore infight Ships and are rar....


CCP we need a tactic against this idiots.... thats not pvp.


AFK waiting for 4 ore more hours is an Exploit.


Hoc



Because we don't already have fifty thousand threads from disgusting null carebears crying about a player who literally cannot do a thing to them at all

Go back to highsec you risk averse little baby
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#71 - 2012-10-29 08:41:36 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Thomas Orca wrote:
Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:


The only way any cloacker becomes a serious threat to you is when he lights a cover/regular cyno. If you don't see any of these then he's just afk and can't harm you. + makes all afraid idiots dock up while you can make better isk
No one ever dies to solo cloaked ships
Of course not, since cloaked ships can't do anything remotely aggressive to you.

well. technically you can say "players can't do anything aggressive to you" because we are living in different places. And to do anything player needs to use in-game stuff.

I would say more: no player ships in game can harm your ship. Because ship does not do any damage or any other harm (we ignore bumping here). Only aggressive modules produces DPS and/or other damage.

Even now we can go farer and say: enemy guns don't harm your ship because ... ? Because of ammo! So technically you only get any aggression from enemy ammo. It's fantastic!

There is only one question: how far can we get with those idiotic and correct sentences like "afk pilot can't do anything to you"? Or some day we will use our brains? Lol

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
Colonel Xaven
Perkone
Caldari State
#72 - 2012-10-29 09:03:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Colonel Xaven
Lyrrashae wrote:
Opertone wrote:
Single AFK cloaker can not do much. [...]


"Cynos' up, cyno's up --bring it, bring it, bring it, BRING IT, BRING IT!!" (DNSBlack, best EVE battle-call ever.)

It doesn't take that long to train Cyno Field Theory and Recons to 5...Twisted

I <3 cloaky-cloaky!


Let's test your statement:

1. Go into a null system,
2. cloak up,
3. leave your keyboard, i.e. go to the kitchen (afk) and from there
4. try to light a cyno.

Post your result here.

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ACE McFACE
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#73 - 2012-10-29 09:53:10 UTC
Johan Civire wrote:
Buy a scanner search them kill them. Is that a answer you want to hear .... no to bad.

You do realise cloaked ships don't appear on any scans right?

Now, more than ever, we need a dislike button.
ACE McFACE
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#74 - 2012-10-29 09:54:04 UTC
Colonel Xaven wrote:
Lyrrashae wrote:
Opertone wrote:
Single AFK cloaker can not do much. [...]


"Cynos' up, cyno's up --bring it, bring it, bring it, BRING IT, BRING IT!!" (DNSBlack, best EVE battle-call ever.)

It doesn't take that long to train Cyno Field Theory and Recons to 5...Twisted

I <3 cloaky-cloaky!


Let's test your statement:

1. Go into a null system,
2. cloak up,
3. leave your keyboard, i.e. go to the kitchen (afk) and from there
4. try to light a cyno.

Post your result here.

The thing is you can't be sure if they are AFK or not

Now, more than ever, we need a dislike button.
Colonel Xaven
Perkone
Caldari State
#75 - 2012-10-29 11:05:10 UTC
ACE McFACE wrote:

The thing is you can't be sure if they are AFK or not


You got my point.

I got the feeling that the bone of contention is not being afk but cloaking at all.

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risora
Doomheim
#76 - 2012-10-29 11:17:01 UTC
although it does not bug me personally . its odd thats theres no counter for it , everything in the game has a counter action except this , time for special probes with high skill requirement and a special cloak seeking depth charge than can only lock onto cloaks .
Rordan D'Kherr
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#77 - 2012-10-29 11:19:43 UTC
risora wrote:
although it does not bug me personally . its odd thats theres no counter for it , everything in the game has a counter action except this , time for special probes with high skill requirement and a special cloak seeking depth charge than can only lock onto cloaks .


how do you counter docking?

Don't be scared, because being afk is not a crime.
risora
Doomheim
#78 - 2012-10-29 11:21:48 UTC
Rordan D'Kherr wrote:
risora wrote:
although it does not bug me personally . its odd thats theres no counter for it , everything in the game has a counter action except this , time for special probes with high skill requirement and a special cloak seeking depth charge than can only lock onto cloaks .


how do you counter docking?


personally think anyone who is webbed should not be able to use stations or gates
Prince Kobol
#79 - 2012-10-29 11:24:13 UTC
Hocico wrote:
Hi,

what can we do against afk stelth pilots in 0.0 ? Nothing !!!

She wait any hours and we cant mining, ratting ore others.... attacks comes only vs mining Barges ore infight Ships and are rar....


CCP we need a tactic against this idiots.... thats not pvp.


AFK waiting for 4 ore more hours is an Exploit.


Hoc



I often rat, mine and run anons with afk cloakers in system, you know why, because somebody who is afk cant kill you Big smile
Presidente Gallente
Best Kept Dunked
Wreckflix and chill
#80 - 2012-10-29 11:41:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Presidente Gallente
You are someone who wants to live in 0.0...
... expecting a safe place for infinite carebearbiz?
... to farm ISK but not willing to PvP?
... to farm ISK but you can't PvP?
... and you can't counter the expected unexpeted (tip: with a fleet)?
... and you are not able to bait cloakers and counter a cyno drop?
... and you have no clue how to deal with afk cloakers in general?
... and you cry on the forums so bad for nerfing afk cloakers?

Simple answer: wrong place for you.