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New Minnie destroyer... o.O

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Hakaru Ishiwara
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#101 - 2012-10-25 15:25:24 UTC
Panhead4411 wrote:
CCP Goliath wrote:
I'd like to remind you all that the new destroyers aren't the focus of testing, they are incidental WiP contained in the build. The art team have not requested early focus on their work nor are the actively seeking feedback so will not be monitoring threads.


So....what your telling us is, at the early stages, while things can still be easily changed, you do not want or care for feedback?

At what point is it generally excepted for feedback?

B/c less than 2 weeks before the pushed release for token feedback hasn't helped you retain customers much lately...
Quoting for truth and justice. While it is responsible for the art project teams to remain focused on their work and not be pulled in 1000 directions via customer feedback, the OP nailed it using the Matilda reference.

We get that this is a rocket and missile platform, but a flying space brick in the realm of the destroyers doesn't work.

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Anabella Rella
Gradient
Electus Matari
#102 - 2012-10-25 15:39:59 UTC
Thanks to CCP for (kind of) listening but, it still looks like a flying brick.

It does look a bit better with the tweaks but, that's like saying death by poison is a bit better than death by stabbing. You're just as dead in either case.

When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.

Captain Futur3
unLimited eve
#103 - 2012-10-25 19:28:50 UTC
Meh.. the minmatar destroyer looks really bad.
I think minmatar ships in general look worse than other ships, but this is just terrible. I like to fly destroyers, but i think i will not fly this piece of s**t because it looks just not cool :(.

Please, if possible.. make it more interesting! Thasher-like would be great!
Solhild
Doomheim
#104 - 2012-10-25 20:20:11 UTC
Captain Futur3 wrote:
Meh.. the minmatar destroyer looks really bad.
I think minmatar ships in general look worse than other ships, but this is just terrible. I like to fly destroyers, but i think i will not fly this piece of s**t because it looks just not cool :(.

Please, if possible.. make it more interesting! Thasher-like would be great!


While the inherent quality of some art has a quirky charm, this is just an overworked bodge. At least it doesn't have the fundamental flaws of the recent reaper update.

We can console ourselves with the new stabber model, looks cool and is a believable design from an engineering systems and hardpoint perspective.
Nagarythe Tinurandir
Einheit X-6
#105 - 2012-10-26 16:12:31 UTC
Captain Futur3 wrote:
Meh.. the minmatar destroyer looks really bad.
I think minmatar ships in general look worse than other ships, but this is just terrible. I like to fly destroyers, but i think i will not fly this piece of s**t because it looks just not cool :(.

Please, if possible.. make it more interesting! Thasher-like would be great!



have you checked out the newest version of the new minnie destroyer on duality?
in my opinion it looks awesome and very minmatarish. a lot of detail has been added.
it's also ok to dislike internet steampunk spaceships, but that much hate is unjustified.
Jerick Ludhowe
Internet Tuff Guys
#106 - 2012-10-27 20:29:40 UTC
Nagarythe Tinurandir wrote:
Captain Futur3 wrote:
Meh.. the minmatar destroyer looks really bad.
I think minmatar ships in general look worse than other ships, but this is just terrible. I like to fly destroyers, but i think i will not fly this piece of s**t because it looks just not cool :(.

Please, if possible.. make it more interesting! Thasher-like would be great!



have you checked out the newest version of the new minnie destroyer on duality?
in my opinion it looks awesome and very minmatarish. a lot of detail has been added.
it's also ok to dislike internet steampunk spaceships, but that much hate is unjustified.


The plow section still needs to be tuned down and not obviously just be a mess of polly's to take up space. The "bridge" area or block needs a total wipe and replaced with something far more stream line.

While I do strongly agree that the wingy bits make it look much better, it's still just lipstick of an elephant turd.
Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
#107 - 2012-10-28 00:43:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Roll Sizzle Beef
I don't see why It needs so many panels compared to its main body. New stabber, one panel. Vaga has a ton yet they all are different sizes and flowing, A fanned cobra hood ready to strike. Normal Tempest, two large paneled areas. The new Vargur with the brilliant boundless creation solar arch style is awesome. The new(ish) Hound, which I now realize didn't maintain the solar arch the corp is best known for, yet the main focus the panels: tiny and subdued. Its just so different...

WAit, what the... I just noticed the massive hole under it. Like it needs a bomb module. That is a deep hole for how thick the model is.
*throws hands up*
Ok, I'm just going to zoom out now. Its fixed for me.
Krell Kroenen
The Devil's Shadow
#108 - 2012-10-28 18:35:24 UTC
The recent changes to the model are nothing more than bandaids to a poorly thought out concept. Using a tank inspired model for a ship hull that is suppose to be light and fast. It might have made a touch more sense if it would have been for the Amarr DD I suppose Roll.

Granted in my opinion there are worse looking ships in the game, yet that doesn't mean I am happy with this one.
Herr Hammer Draken
#109 - 2012-10-29 10:38:21 UTC
Midnight Hope wrote:
CCP Huskarl wrote:
Hey

Yes the design of the new Minmatar destroyer would probably not fall under the category of sleek, elegant and pretty anytime soon. And i will gladly admit that its sort of like a flying brick or a Russian WW2 tank with solar panels but that's exactly what we what we thought would make it an interesting and cool addition to the EVE universe ...


I understand where you are coming from (the Caldari one looks like a u-boat)...but I'm still not sold on the idea...and it is certainly not growing on me. TBH, tanks never really attracted me much...or I would be playing World of Tanks instead of EVE. Twisted


No you would not. If you are into tanks world of tanks then you would hate it for all the stuff they do to make the game fun to play.
It lost all historical reference. No realism. It would be better if they made it ficticous tanks in some future world.

Herr Hammer Draken "The Amarr Prophet"

Skippermonkey
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#110 - 2012-10-29 10:51:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Skippermonkey
MotherMoon wrote:
Skippermonkey wrote:

It would be responsible to ignore the reactions to the leaked designs at this early stage where changes can be easily made.


fixed it for you

just quoting this to highlight that your faith in CCP is misplaced

COME AT ME BRO

I'LL JUST BE DOCKED IN THIS STATION

Cheekything
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#111 - 2012-10-29 19:49:01 UTC
Haters always going to hate.

I think it's an interesting look but it could do with some improvements.

The back end makes it look like a cargo ship, yet the front makes it look like a stag beatle (which I cool) if some wingy bits were added to the back it would complete this look a bit mo