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Nothing happens! Client closes after splash screen [Solved] | now other Issues+Graphics
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Commander Godsmack
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2011-10-15 15:19:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Commander Godsmack
There are some things i expect out of a computer such as being able to boot up again after a shutdown... As such i have finally got a linux distro to be able to use my computer again and hearing of its reliabilty.
anyway

So I have installed Ubuntu 11.10 64bit and wine 1.2.3

I dont know if hardware is a relevant issue but here is the specs anyway
my machine is a compaq SR2030NX basically = http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c00754206&lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en&product=3245050

only difference is i have upgraded to 2 GB of memory and a ATI Radeon 5670 1GB DD3 graphics card

So I downloaded the windows client fine and installed using wine without errors. Now when I try to start eve I just get the splash screen for a few seconds and it goes away then nothing happens.

I came across this article----->> http://www.eve-search.com/thread/1226117-0/page/all
and follwed the instructions there until step 8. I did not proceed with the rest of the steps becuase being a noob with a lack of better understanding I did not want to "break" something as my CPU is an AMD processor and not from Intel.

Is it ok to try to go through with the rest of those steps with my processor? provided all information i can think of atm if i missed something tell me

Recap: Nothing Happens after splash screen - how do i fix this and get eve running?

edit - updated heading to include other bugs
Elegbara
White Wolf Enterprises
#2 - 2011-10-15 19:53:04 UTC
Try running eve from terminal with the usual "explorer /desktop" stuff and then copy the terminal output here. The solution described on the page you linked is not relevant since out explains how to get a newer kernel on old Ubuntu and your version is a lot newer than that.

Open your eyes. And awaken.
Commander Godsmack
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2011-10-15 20:36:19 UTC
I probably forgot to mention what is maybe considered a mind boggoling scale of how much of a linux noob I am - I dont know how to run stuff from the terminal, can I get specific instuctions on how to run eve from the terminal, please?
Elegbara
White Wolf Enterprises
#4 - 2011-10-15 21:02:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Elegbara
Well... first thing you need is to launch the terminal itself. It's done like this:
open Unity launcher (I assume you use Unity, you need alt+f1 I think) and type something like "terminal" in the input field. Pick the terminal application. Once there paste the following command:
Quote:
wine explorer /desktop=tq,1280x1024 "C:\Program Files\CCP\EVE\eve.exe"


Replace the 1280x1024 with your resolution (you can use any resolution actually - it will be smaller than your screen but it will still work properly). You can copy and paste stuff using mouse as ctrl+v wouldn't work in terminal. Then assuming it doesn't work, just copy the stuff it printed and paste it here. If it is too long, save it to file and upload somewhere. Or use the following command instead:
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wine explorer /desktop=tq,1280x1024 "C:\Program Files\CCP\EVE\eve.exe" &>~/Desktop/eve.log
This will create a file called eve.log on your desktop with all the output needed.

Open your eyes. And awaken.
Commander Godsmack
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2011-10-15 21:19:00 UTC
ok I entered the first command and this what came out:

err:ole:CoGetClassObject class {9a5ea990-3034-4d6f-9128-01f3c61022bc} not registered
err:ole:CoGetClassObject no class object {9a5ea990-3034-4d6f-9128-01f3c61022bc} could be created for context 0x1
fixme:heap:HeapSetInformation 0x47e000 0 0x33f678 4
EVE Client version 7.11 build 292761 starting 17:16:20
Network layer using: StacklessIO
Multi-Language System: Client using language [EN]
Starting up Trinity through _trinity_deploy.dll ...
err:winediag:X11DRV_WineGL_InitOpenglInfo Direct rendering is disabled, most likely your OpenGL drivers haven't been installed correctly
wine: Unhandled page fault on read access to 0xf717a000 at address 0xf74a0a11 (thread 003a), starting debugger...
*** glibc detected *** C:\Program Files\CCP\EVE\bin\ExeFile.exe: double free or corruption (out): 0x7c647330 ***
err:seh:raise_exception Unhandled exception code c0000005 flags 0 addr 0xf6e070a9
Elegbara
White Wolf Enterprises
#6 - 2011-10-15 21:28:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Elegbara
Well, I guess it means you are not using a proper driver for your graphics card. You can check if you're using a proprietary driver in "Additional Drivers" system settings page.

Unfortunately I don't know much about Radeon drivers under Linux and I'm NVidia user myself. I remember being able to run eve on some Radeon about a year ago though. It did involve installing some proprietary drivers.

You might also want to check this thread about eve on winehq (note: url is broken replace the "&" with &). It appears someone got similar configuration (latest kernel, 64-bit OS, ATI Radeon card) .

Open your eyes. And awaken.
Commander Godsmack
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2011-10-15 22:23:24 UTC
Well I looked in the Additional Drivers and 2 drivers where listed

ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics driver (post-release updates)

ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics driver

and it didnt say either was active so i went with attempting to activate the first one which then caused it to start downloading then installing that driver but then when it was done I got some sort of error that got dumped to: /var/log/jockey.log

Then i noticed though I need to do a restart to apply changes so i did not sure why that would be the case since i got an error but anyway i restarted;
Though i would try starting eve now and it seems to actually load! Smile I even was able to install update #4 except now there is another problem; The EULA screen pops up but its completely blank so i cant scroll to the end of it to accept and get on with the game.

Where to go from here?

Also I'll just add since the eula was just a blank screen so i couldnt do anything i was essentially stuck there and couldnt close the client and when i tabbed out to the desktop and tried to shutdown wine my computer froze and i had to force a manual shutdown. (I tried closing wine by right clicking the icon in the pane on left side and selecting quit; idk if this a horribly wrong way to close a program running in wine if so let me know)
Commander Godsmack
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2011-10-15 22:36:26 UTC
forgot to mention I do not have either of the drivers active atm
Elegbara
White Wolf Enterprises
#9 - 2011-10-15 23:32:42 UTC
Eula issue is mentioned in appdb I believe. Something to do with fonts.

Yep.

Quote:
1) Download winetricks http://wiki.winehq.org/winetricks

2) run it and install corefonts : sh winetricks corefonts

3) Check Eve Online


In ubuntu winetricks is already installed.

Open your eyes. And awaken.
Commander Godsmack
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2011-10-16 06:59:13 UTC
OK well shortly after my last post I revisted some googling I did on this the issue being suggested was to do with fonts. At first i came across that apparently only one font file was missing, arial.tff which i had already copy pasted into the wine folder but that didnt do the trick then in some forum htread it mention arial and verdana maybe also sans ; so i thought what the hell I'll just copy the whole damn ms truetype core fonts into the fonts folder got wine. Doing this caused my computer to freeze again for some reason which i forced a shutdown again several hours later (would be about 30 min ago) after waking from a nap.

Boot up computer again now with all the core fonts copied to wine and try starting eve again. IT WORKS!! eula displayed normally, i was able to scroll to the end and accept and log in. On character selection nothing was off.

Couple new things now though...

There is this continuous thudding sound in the audio and
Captains Quarters loads mostly fine (I think it may actually load/render faster than it did in Windows XP) but when I click and drag around a white box appears where the cursor would be and my avatar dosnt quite render right, is almost completely a black sillouette.

Then about a minute after CQ has loaded i pressed esc and then eve froze again i couldnt do anything and i had to do yet another forced manual shutdown.
Commander Godsmack
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2011-10-16 08:03:58 UTC
Update:

So I have turned off both audio in eve and CQ and now eve is working though when i undock everything is slow/laggy -

fix?
Elegbara
White Wolf Enterprises
#12 - 2011-10-16 08:47:36 UTC
Looks like exactly the same problem as the one described in appdb. No idea. Seems like graphics card drivers problem.
Quote:
The problem is: whatever I do I can't get good FPS. When I set every graphic option to minimum I get pretty much the same FPS when I set everything to max: ~15 FPS. The difference is at most ~4 FPS.

I tried changing 'Interval' to different levels but it doesn't change anything. Disabling GLSL (it used to boost FPS) won't work, because then EVE says I don't have Shaders 3 and won't run... I've also tried ATI mesa drivers, but they don't work well with my card.

Open your eyes. And awaken.
Commander Godsmack
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2011-10-16 11:01:54 UTC
Graphics seem to working better now; fluid performance it seems

I have not done anything with winetricks or installed it; what i did was thgouh went back into system setting -> additional drivers and I activated the ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics driver *NOT the post release one; post release gives me some error when trying to install*

however when i try making a screenshot the screen goes nuts for a few seconds; how to fix? and then where are the screenshots saved?
Commander Godsmack
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2011-10-16 13:41:29 UTC
maybe i'll have a look at the appdb

meantime
Alt+ tab dosnt work - how to fix?
Some more testing (mostly in station) revealing that even activating one of the two drivers cursor movement is not fluid; problem for me as most of time is spent trading in station and need to be able to move cursor around/pull up windows ect

Also experiencing several times now that eve just freezes up and i have to reboot to kill it.

how to get eve running smoothly? I really want to stay away from Windows
Elegbara
White Wolf Enterprises
#15 - 2011-10-16 18:01:04 UTC
About alt+tab - you should still run eve with the "explorer /desktop" stuff. It is described somewhere in this forum how to make a proper unity launcher. Without it eve really freezes when you alt-tab.

Open your eyes. And awaken.
Commander Godsmack
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2011-10-17 21:29:07 UTC
Elegbara wrote:
Well, I guess it means you are not using a proper driver for your graphics card. You can check if you're using a proprietary driver in "Additional Drivers" system settings page.

Unfortunately I don't know much about Radeon drivers under Linux and I'm NVidia user myself. I remember being able to run eve on some Radeon about a year ago though. It did involve installing some proprietary drivers.

You might also want to check this thread about eve on winehq (note: url is broken replace the "&" with &). It appears someone got similar configuration (latest kernel, 64-bit OS, ATI Radeon card) .


? = the link isnt broken takes me to a winehq page; though i have no idea wtf i am supposed to do a whole bunch of links to developers and applications with version numbers


Elegbara wrote:
About alt+tab - you should still run eve with the "explorer /desktop" stuff. It is described somewhere in this forum how to make a proper unity launcher. Without it eve really freezes when you alt-tab.


uhm what do you mean by "still run eve with the "explorer /desktop" stuff." ?


And is there anyone else running eve on an ATI/ card+driver(s) ? I could use some help in making it work better for eve;
using FGLRX driver
Elegbara
White Wolf Enterprises
#17 - 2011-10-19 07:08:49 UTC
Commander Godsmack wrote:
? = the link isnt broken takes me to a winehq page; though i have no idea wtf i am supposed to do a whole bunch of links to developers and applications with version numbers
The link is broken as it should send you to Eve Online page in appdb instead.


Commander Godsmack wrote:
uhm what do you mean by "still run eve with the "explorer /desktop" stuff." ?
Default way of running eve is something like that:
Quote:
wine "C:\Program Files\CCP\EVE\eve.exe"
which is known to hang up when you alt-tab. The known workaround for it is to run eve like this:
Quote:
wine explorer /desktop=eve,{width}x{height} "C:\Program Files\CCP\EVE\eve.exe"

This thread here in Linux subforum of eve forums explains how to create a proper launcher.

Open your eyes. And awaken.