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Zhade Lezte
#41 - 2012-10-27 23:03:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Zhade Lezte
Touval Lysander wrote:
Sir Marksalot wrote:

Touval Lysander wrote:

I was hoping you would elaborate so that we may see what it COST to kill 1.5t.

You know. ACTUAL statistics.

nvm. Carry on.

Are you implying that we lost money killing freighters?

No, I was asking how much you paid Concord to look the other way? Roll

Of course I don't KNOW if you LOST money - the COST to kill 1.5t was not included in the numbers.

I suspect that you did not lose money (why would you?) but then really, it wasn't my point anyway.


I'm feeling helpful today so add up the freighter kills and multiply by about 1 billion ISK, give or take some, and you got the cost.

The dude said "1.5 trillion in freighters destroyed" not "1.5 trillion in profit" or "1.5 trillion ~ISK efficiency advantage green killboards green killboards~" hope this helps.
Sir Marksalot
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#42 - 2012-10-27 23:05:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Sir Marksalot
Touval Lysander wrote:
Vanyr Andrard wrote:
Touval Lysander wrote:


I care not for the statistics. I care for when people use statistics without including ALL data.

Ever heard of the cliche "Lies, Damn Lies and Statistics"? Do you know what it means?



I hear someone whining that people aren't spoonfeeding him information for free. Hope I never meet this person who feels so entitled.

Would it help if I ask nicely where I can locate said data? How do I go about "looking up these numbers" myself rather than be err..... "spoon fed"?

Concord KM's?
Honest Goons?

I was genuinely interested in what it cost to kill 1.5t - even help you stroke the e-peen a bit.

But. meh.



Talos. Amount of damage it does in a 0.5. Amount of damage freighters can take. How big does a freighter have to be to make a guaranteed profit over time? Do some basic damned math.



e: Bastard stole my snipe.
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#43 - 2012-10-27 23:07:06 UTC
Posting in a thread full of goons ! \o/ :D

Love you guys, keep it up ! ^_^
Sir Marksalot
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#44 - 2012-10-27 23:08:21 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
Posting in a thread full of goons ! \o/ :D

Love you guys, keep it up ! ^_^


it's nice to meet people who appreciate my art
Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
#45 - 2012-10-27 23:17:57 UTC
Zhade Lezte wrote:

The dude said "1.5 trillion in freighters destroyed" not "1.5 trillion in profit" or "1.5 trillion ~ISK efficiency advantage green killboards green killboards~" hope this helps.

I didn't ask about profit.

I asked what it cost and obviously just posting some quick-at-hand number - that would already be known - would have sufficed.

Nope. Let's just Goonswamp with BS. No wonder you guys are treated like the fuckwits you are. Roll

Tell your FC to get his ass into gear. Sitting at a bridge is obviously making you bored.

"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
#46 - 2012-10-27 23:19:27 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
Posting in a thread full of goons ! \o/ :D

Love you guys, keep it up ! ^_^

The thread started with the word "Goons"

waddya expect?

"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#47 - 2012-10-27 23:20:24 UTC
"hurr I'm too lazy to do basic maths I'll just throw random insults instead"

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Sir Marksalot
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#48 - 2012-10-27 23:24:36 UTC
Touval Lysander wrote:
Zhade Lezte wrote:

The dude said "1.5 trillion in freighters destroyed" not "1.5 trillion in profit" or "1.5 trillion ~ISK efficiency advantage green killboards green killboards~" hope this helps.

I didn't ask about profit.

I asked what it cost and obviously just posting some quick-at-hand number - that would already be known - would have sufficed.

Nope. Let's just Goonswamp with BS. No wonder you guys are treated like the fuckwits you are. Roll

Tell your FC to get his ass into gear. Sitting at a bridge is obviously making you bored.



He pretty much just told you what it cost and you're too stupid to multiply that by whatever number of freighters we killed. Congratulations.


There are also no bridges in highsec. Get out.
Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
#49 - 2012-10-27 23:31:00 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
"hurr I'm too lazy to do basic maths I'll just throw random insults instead"

And I wonder what would have happened if I posted on a different char?

/me goes off to tie yet another trout lure using this pattern. Goon fly - pattern #2.

"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
Zudrag
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#50 - 2012-10-27 23:31:16 UTC
Thank you Manifest Destiny for stopping the evil Goons.
Sir Marksalot
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#51 - 2012-10-27 23:34:58 UTC
Touval Lysander wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
"hurr I'm too lazy to do basic maths I'll just throw random insults instead"

And I wonder what would have happened if I posted on a different char?

/me goes off to tie yet another trout lure using this pattern. Goon fly - pattern #2.


Are we supposed to know who you are? Don't feel persecuted because we're not giving you access to our private killboard.
Zhade Lezte
#52 - 2012-10-27 23:36:41 UTC
Touval Lysander wrote:
Zhade Lezte wrote:

The dude said "1.5 trillion in freighters destroyed" not "1.5 trillion in profit" or "1.5 trillion ~ISK efficiency advantage green killboards green killboards~" hope this helps.

I didn't ask about profit.

I asked what it cost and obviously just posting some quick-at-hand number - that would already be known - would have sufficed.

Nope. Let's just Goonswamp with BS. No wonder you guys are treated like the fuckwits you are. Roll

Tell your FC to get his ass into gear. Sitting at a bridge is obviously making you bored.



Goodness

153 freighters killed according to a quick glance at killboards.

You can do this Touval Lysander! I believe in you!
Zhade Lezte
#53 - 2012-10-27 23:42:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Zhade Lezte
Aw **** I forgot the 2 jump freighter kills my cost-hiding agenda is revealed Oops

Plus those probably cost a bit more to gank but vOv
Tarvos Telesto
Blood Fanatics
#54 - 2012-10-27 23:47:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Tarvos Telesto
Miko Jin wrote:
All ice miners out there really need to thank Manifest Destiny for holding back the Goons on the Ice mining gank operation they should have started last week.

For you that do not know Manifest destiny was war decced by Goonswarm due to a contract they took. Goonswarm war decced Manifest Destiny as the corp in the contract is a Goon pet and now Goonswarm are now held in a mutual war by Manifest Destiny and Dec shield.

Seems as if it has also hit them trying to transfer sov also, and in High sec they have lost a couple of Billion isk in ships to Manifest Destiny.


So my point is however big you are don't get too arrogant as somebody will bite you in the ass.



Better than WAR.

Stop mining ice like one year long at last 6 months (entire ice miners community) , mining amount of ice that you need for yourself but not above needs, increase ice protuct price, stop seling ice so cheap, here was time when people pay for ice more than these days, result - force big null aliances to minig ice ! made them carebears, force them to mining ice to feed BIG NULL POS infrastructure, let them cry, let them mining for own needs, destroy thier POS infrastructure by stoping mining or seling ice cheap.

No ice no POs, no fuel for capitals, bridges, chaos etc, do same with ore ;) incease battleship price to 600mil eatch P

EvE isn't game, its style of living.
Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
#55 - 2012-10-27 23:53:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Touval Lysander
Zhade Lezte wrote:

Goodness

153 freighters killed according to a quick glance at killboards.

You can do this Touval Lysander! I believe in you!

So now I know the number of km's being included in the 1.5t number. Yay!! I could not work from a dollar value (1.5t) because KM's calculate wrong. But you KNEW that.

I am positive ONE of you saw the difficulty in me "doing my own homework" when one is not aware of the ranges being used to arrive at n number.

In the first instance I did not have the date range to arrive at n
I did not know if n was inclusive of destroyed cargo?

Thus we can deduce that I was unable to calculate x freighters killed to arrive at n and no amount of looking at killboards would provide that data.

But you KNEW that too. You guys are far too clever to assume everybody has access to what you know by default because someone else already did the numbers for YOU.

We're moving forward.... A good thing. Blink

"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#56 - 2012-10-27 23:56:19 UTC
Azumi Zimu wrote:
Vanyr Andrard wrote:

Yet another person who wants ACTUAL statistics but is unable to ACTUALLY compile them himself due to mental incapacity. What is this world coming to.


Just buy a Something Awful account, they're 10$, premium is like 30$ and you can even change your picture. But the best part is you can be a part of their kool club instead of flopping around on the forums fluffing them.


People pay for forum access? WTF why would anyone do this?

~ Professional Forum Alt  ~
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#57 - 2012-10-27 23:59:04 UTC
Touval Lysander wrote:
You guys are far too clever to assume everybody has access to what you know by default because someone else already did the numbers for YOU.

It's almost like it's difficult to go to eve-kill.net, search for goonswarm federation, look at kills and go month by month and do the numbers.

But just almost.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
NEONOVUS
Mindstar Technology
Goonswarm Federation
#58 - 2012-10-27 23:59:17 UTC
Ugh so much pain trying to remember that freighter gank.
Mostly because at no point while watching for the 20 minute leadup did I think to to get a smartbomb ship and stomp on a bunch of kms.
But it was 4 pulse fit oracles, 3 gank brutix and 2 neutron catalyst.
About 600 mil high end.
That was to kill a providence.
Zudrag
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#59 - 2012-10-28 00:04:47 UTC
Sentamon wrote:
Azumi Zimu wrote:
Vanyr Andrard wrote:

Yet another person who wants ACTUAL statistics but is unable to ACTUALLY compile them himself due to mental incapacity. What is this world coming to.


Just buy a Something Awful account, they're 10$, premium is like 30$ and you can even change your picture. But the best part is you can be a part of their kool club instead of flopping around on the forums fluffing them.


People pay for forum access? WTF why would anyone do this?


As SomethingAwful is the largest Homosexual's HIV+ support group, the money paid there goes partly to charity, and the rest to keep the website maintained.

Why do you hate charities?
SmilingVagrant
Doomheim
#60 - 2012-10-28 00:07:54 UTC
Touval Lysander wrote:
Zhade Lezte wrote:

The dude said "1.5 trillion in freighters destroyed" not "1.5 trillion in profit" or "1.5 trillion ~ISK efficiency advantage green killboards green killboards~" hope this helps.

I didn't ask about profit.

I asked what it cost and obviously just posting some quick-at-hand number - that would already be known - would have sufficed.

Nope. Let's just Goonswamp with BS. No wonder you guys are treated like the fuckwits you are. Roll

Tell your FC to get his ass into gear. Sitting at a bridge is obviously making you bored.



Hahah look at you.