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Miners Unite to Fight the New Order!

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Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
#21 - 2012-10-27 23:21:54 UTC
Marvin Narville wrote:
Touval Lysander wrote:
Zero Audier wrote:
I'm getting tired of people talking about this. Just hire some dam mercs with all those iskies you made from mining Roll.

Whilst I do not agree with the whining going on about it, the fact remains that the bumper incurs no cost for his actions and a cost is required to stop it.

In fact the bumper profits in that he gains a killright and insurance payout. For ZERO risk.

Let's be true to our game if nothing else.

If we are to do anything - stop the NPC corp hiding so he can be at least wardecced.


Wouldn't this also allow for Miners hiding in NPC corps to be war decced?

Are they engaging in PvP?

"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#22 - 2012-10-27 23:24:21 UTC
Yes they're acquiring ore that could have gone to other miners
Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
#23 - 2012-10-27 23:25:17 UTC
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:

If it goes on a low slot, that means the miner would have to give up a MLU II, so it will never be used and they will still complain. If it goes on the midslot, they probably wouldn't fit it anyway, and if it did it means their ship would be much easier to gank, so they will complain.

Here's the thing.

Have no counter, complain, maybe someone listen.

Have counter, complain, ignored.

CCP not stupid.

(we can argue "counter" ofc but i think you get what i'm saying)

"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
#24 - 2012-10-27 23:26:28 UTC
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
Yes they're acquiring ore that could have gone to other miners

I think I was being rhetorical like. Blink

"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
Tesal
#25 - 2012-10-27 23:34:13 UTC
Why another post on James 315? The OP is playing right into his hand by making another post about this. Miner tears on the forums will only embolden him even more.
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#26 - 2012-10-27 23:36:00 UTC
Look...a miner creating content....well done...carry on

TunDraGon is recruiting! "Also, your boobs [:o] "   CCP Eterne, 2012 "When in doubt...make a diȼk joke." Robin Williams - RIP
NEONOVUS
Mindstar Technology
Goonswarm Federation
#27 - 2012-10-27 23:49:14 UTC
So why do members of the new order hide in npc corps?
Should not they wear their conviction on their chest and fly high the colors of progress?
Do they think that by skulking about amongst unwashed masses their message shall be heard?
I say NO!
Their tactics of bumping paint themselves clearly as washed up fighters to timid to even suicide gank a miner.
If they were so prgogressive and forward thinking, they should cleanse New Eden with Artillery and blaster.
With a smile on their face and the support and cheering of all.
But they do not.
They run, they cower in npc corps, they refuse to settle as men or even as a woman.
They scurry as vermin, nipping at ankles, and spreading rot and decay.
Rollin Forties
School of Applied Street Knowledge
#28 - 2012-10-27 23:52:33 UTC
NEONOVUS wrote:
So why do members of the new order hide in npc corps?
Should not they wear their conviction on their chest and fly high the colors of progress?
Do they think that by skulking about amongst unwashed masses their message shall be heard?
I say NO!
Their tactics of bumping paint themselves clearly as washed up fighters to timid to even suicide gank a miner.
If they were so prgogressive and forward thinking, they should cleanse New Eden with Artillery and blaster.
With a smile on their face and the support and cheering of all.
But they do not.
They run, they cower in npc corps, they refuse to settle as men or even as a woman.
They scurry as vermin, nipping at ankles, and spreading rot and decay.


I've bumped plenty of miners with a non-npc corp character. From my experience, they talk tough but never once act on their talk and actually war dec.
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#29 - 2012-10-27 23:55:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Vimsy Vortis
I bump miners. Come at me bro. You don't even have to pay just join one of my wars as an ally.
Some Rando
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2012-10-28 00:00:02 UTC
Touval Lysander wrote:
(we can argue "counter" ofc but i think you get what i'm saying)

If you don't want to be bumped, either increase the mass of your ship or move out of the way. How is that a difficult counter to understand? There are probably other counters as well, like interposing another ship or something. Saying bumping has no counter is stupid.

It's almost like miners don't bother using the grey matter between their ears.

You know, I think miners just might be the worst people in EVE because they clog up the petition system, whine incessantly, and actually don't even play the game if all the AFK claims are true. What terrible people.

CCP has no sense of humour.
Tarvos Telesto
Blood Fanatics
#31 - 2012-10-28 00:02:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Tarvos Telesto
People are proud because they bump miners, how stupid, i think ship spining is more excited than bumping miners, oh wait EvE is full of mature people.

EvE isn't game, its style of living.
Bane Necran
Appono Astos
#32 - 2012-10-28 00:04:07 UTC
One time a miner bumped my Hulk, so i did a 180, swinging the ship around sideways, and hit his little frigate like a bat hitting a ball.

It was wicked gnar.

"In the void is virtue, and no evil. Wisdom has existence, principle has existence, the Way has existence, spirit is nothingness." ~Miyamoto Musashi
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#33 - 2012-10-28 00:06:06 UTC
Vimsy Vortis wrote:


Now miners are crying about people bumping their ships. Given the pattern of pandering to the every whim of miners I'm going to bet we'll see something about this in patch notes soon.



Every action is followed by an equal and opposite reaction.

Simple.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#34 - 2012-10-28 00:10:10 UTC
That doesn't even make sense.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#35 - 2012-10-28 00:15:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Krixtal Icefluxor
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
That doesn't even make sense.



Yes it does.

Unfortunately education standards have really fallen hard the last 30 years.

edit: PVP RULZ player decides something that goes on in High Sec is Evil. They decide on a 'technique' to counter it. CCP realizes the error of PVP RULZ Player's ways/ CCP implements new Patch.

That is an Action...followed by a reaction. Just like science !!!!!!!

I'm glad we are all on the same level now.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Thor Kerrigan
Guardians of Asceticism
#36 - 2012-10-28 00:18:03 UTC
Pan Miller wrote:
They are bullies

Fail #1
Pan Miller wrote:
filing petitions

Fail #2
Pan Miller wrote:
while they ruin our game

Fail #3
Pan Miller wrote:
that may make it even harder to be left alone to mine in peace.

Fail #4
Pan Miller wrote:
[A]sk for any donations[.]

C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER!!!

For maximum lolz, read the five quotes back-to-back.
SmilingVagrant
Doomheim
#37 - 2012-10-28 00:18:49 UTC
Zero Audier wrote:


High slot module that puts up a bubble around your ship (porportional to the size of your ship) that no other ship can enter, and is flung back when comeing into contact with it.


Make it like a Cyno in that you can't do anything else while it's lit including mining and it autorecalls all drones and I'd be fine with this. It would be like the worlds most boring triage module.
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#38 - 2012-10-28 00:19:06 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Vimsy Vortis wrote:


Now miners are crying about people bumping their ships. Given the pattern of pandering to the every whim of miners I'm going to bet we'll see something about this in patch notes soon.



Every action is followed by an equal and opposite reaction.

Simple.

represented in this case by ship momentum
TheTrue Acolyte
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#39 - 2012-10-28 00:33:02 UTC
"And the Code shall reign supreme for all the days, e'en though the masses return to their keyboards in order to band against it, for they shall struggle with the concept of action for far too long." - The Gospel of James 315, The Book of Emergence, Chapter 2 Verse 18

The way and the life of HiSec. Heed the Code and achieve everlasting mining cycles:

http://www.minerbumping.com
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#40 - 2012-10-28 00:43:11 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Unfortunately education standards have really fallen hard the last 30 years.

Says someone who applies a concept from Newton's laws of motion to a completely irrelevant social phenomenon.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)