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Azumi Zimu
#21 - 2012-10-27 22:04:32 UTC
Vanyr Andrard wrote:

Yet another person who wants ACTUAL statistics but is unable to ACTUALLY compile them himself due to mental incapacity. What is this world coming to.


Just buy a Something Awful account, they're 10$, premium is like 30$ and you can even change your picture. But the best part is you can be a part of their kool club instead of flopping around on the forums fluffing them.
Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
#22 - 2012-10-27 22:09:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Touval Lysander
Vanyr Andrard wrote:

Yet another person who wants ACTUAL statistics but is unable to ACTUALLY compile them himself due to mental incapacity. What is this world coming to.

Yet another person who can't understand what someone ACTUALLY meant.

I care not for the statistics. I care for when people use statistics without including ALL data.

Ever heard of the cliche "Lies, Damn Lies and Statistics"? Do you know what it means?

Far too subtle for you to grasp apparently. Roll


(Notwithstanding the fact that I have no way to compile the data myself unless I am positive that ALL kills attributed to 1.5t are in fact ALL Goons - but meh. That is also obviously beyond your understanding).

"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#23 - 2012-10-27 22:29:20 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Azumi Zimu wrote:
There were a few goon catalysts attempting to gank Mackinaws and failing. So they turned to killing 6 day old characters in retrievers then spamming local

> LOOOLLZZ
>JAMES 316!!
>goons4life
>SEND ME ISK
>allah akbar! loooolllzzz

It was pretty pathetic.

That is indeed terrible posting. Who were they?

They are indeed pretty bad at local.

I daresay they would be horrible posters as well. We need to... rectify this.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Sir Marksalot
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2012-10-27 22:34:54 UTC
oh lordy another bad thread


Lord Zim wrote:
Oh look, a new Jade. I don't suppose you'll start harping on about how much we've lost face as well.

That's an insult to Jade. At least Jade is literate.


Touval Lysander wrote:

I was hoping you would elaborate so that we may see what it COST to kill 1.5t.

You know. ACTUAL statistics.

nvm. Carry on.

Are you implying that we lost money killing freighters?


Azumi Zimu wrote:
There were a few goon catalysts attempting to gank Mackinaws and failing. So they turned to killing 6 day old characters in retrievers then spamming local

> LOOOLLZZ
>JAMES 316!!
>goons4life
>SEND ME ISK
>allah akbar! loooolllzzz

It was pretty pathetic.


Post logs. Name and shame.
Sir Marksalot
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2012-10-27 22:37:20 UTC
Miko Jin wrote:
All ice miners out there really need to thank Manifest Destiny for holding back the Goons on the Ice mining gank operation they should have started last week.

For you that do not know Manifest destiny was war decced by Goonswarm due to a contract they took. Goonswarm war decced Manifest Destiny as the corp in the contract is a Goon pet and now Goonswarm are now held in a mutual war by Manifest Destiny and Dec shield.

Seems as if it has also hit them trying to transfer sov also, and in High sec they have lost a couple of Billion isk in ships to Manifest Destiny.

So my point is however big you are don't get too arrogant as somebody will bite you in the ass.



do you mean the time we stocked up on isotopes, shot miners for a week, spiked ice prices, and pretty much doubled our isk

those were good times
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2012-10-27 22:40:10 UTC
Sir Marksalot wrote:
do you mean the time we stocked up on isotopes, shot miners for a week, spiked ice prices, and pretty much doubled our isk

those were good times

Bought stock at 450, sold stock at 999.99 crew checking in.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Vanyr Andrard
VacuumTube
#27 - 2012-10-27 22:40:46 UTC
Touval Lysander wrote:


I care not for the statistics. I care for when people use statistics without including ALL data.

Ever heard of the cliche "Lies, Damn Lies and Statistics"? Do you know what it means?




I hear someone whining that people aren't spoonfeeding him information for free. Hope I never meet this person who feels so entitled.
Sir Marksalot
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2012-10-27 22:44:20 UTC
Vanyr Andrard wrote:
Touval Lysander wrote:


I care not for the statistics. I care for when people use statistics without including ALL data.

Ever heard of the cliche "Lies, Damn Lies and Statistics"? Do you know what it means?




I hear someone whining that people aren't spoonfeeding him information for free. Hope I never meet this person who feels so entitled.



I don't think we bothered to post our thousands of dead ships on our killboard really. But it's not hard to figure out what it takes to kill a freighter and multiply that by what we killed. A good place to start would be our most expensive ship, the Talos.
Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
#29 - 2012-10-27 22:46:35 UTC
Sir Marksalot wrote:

Touval Lysander wrote:

I was hoping you would elaborate so that we may see what it COST to kill 1.5t.

You know. ACTUAL statistics.

nvm. Carry on.

Are you implying that we lost money killing freighters?

No, I was asking how much you paid Concord to look the other way? Roll

Of course I don't KNOW if you LOST money - the COST to kill 1.5t was not included in the numbers.

I suspect that you did not lose money (why would you?) but then really, it wasn't my point anyway.

"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2012-10-27 22:48:07 UTC
Touval Lysander wrote:
it wasn't my point anyway.

Implying you had a point.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Vanyr Andrard
VacuumTube
#31 - 2012-10-27 22:51:33 UTC
Azumi Zimu wrote:
Vanyr Andrard wrote:

Yet another person who wants ACTUAL statistics but is unable to ACTUALLY compile them himself due to mental incapacity. What is this world coming to.


Just buy a Something Awful account, they're 10$, premium is like 30$ and you can even change your picture. But the best part is you can be a part of their kool club instead of flopping around on the forums fluffing them.


Flopping around fluffing? Lady, you're doing it wrong.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#32 - 2012-10-27 22:53:06 UTC
Vanyr Andrard wrote:
Touval Lysander wrote:
I care not for the statistics. I care for when people use statistics without including ALL data.

Ever heard of the cliche "Lies, Damn Lies and Statistics"? Do you know what it means?

I hear someone whining that people aren't spoonfeeding him information for free. Hope I never meet this person who feels so entitled.

Too bad,

You already have.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Vanyr Andrard
VacuumTube
#33 - 2012-10-27 22:54:12 UTC
Sir Marksalot wrote:
Vanyr Andrard wrote:
Touval Lysander wrote:


I care not for the statistics. I care for when people use statistics without including ALL data.

Ever heard of the cliche "Lies, Damn Lies and Statistics"? Do you know what it means?




I hear someone whining that people aren't spoonfeeding him information for free. Hope I never meet this person who feels so entitled.



I don't think we bothered to post our thousands of dead ships on our killboard really. But it's not hard to figure out what it takes to kill a freighter and multiply that by what we killed. A good place to start would be our most expensive ship, the Talos.


That would require him to search through baltec's posts for at least 40-50 seconds to find how many freighters made up that 1.5T figure. 40-50 seconds he could be using to write incoherent attacks on those he envies. Not going to happen.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#34 - 2012-10-27 22:56:29 UTC
Vanyr Andrard wrote:
Sir Marksalot wrote:
I don't think we bothered to post our thousands of dead ships on our killboard really. But it's not hard to figure out what it takes to kill a freighter and multiply that by what we killed. A good place to start would be our most expensive ship, the Talos.


That would require him to search through baltec's posts for at least 40-50 seconds to find how many freighters made up that 1.5T figure. 40-50 seconds he could be using to write incoherent attacks on those he envies. Not going to happen.

One could only wish eh. Anyway the point is obvious, ganking needs to be nerfed.

Again.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#35 - 2012-10-27 22:58:25 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
One could only wish eh. Anyway the point is obvious, ganking needs to be nerfed.

Again.

Don't worry, it's coming december 4th.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Sir Marksalot
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#36 - 2012-10-27 22:59:46 UTC
Touval Lysander wrote:
Sir Marksalot wrote:

Touval Lysander wrote:

I was hoping you would elaborate so that we may see what it COST to kill 1.5t.

You know. ACTUAL statistics.

nvm. Carry on.

Are you implying that we lost money killing freighters?

No, I was asking how much you paid Concord to look the other way? Roll

Of course I don't KNOW if you LOST money - the COST to kill 1.5t was not included in the numbers.

I suspect that you did not lose money (why would you?) but then really, it wasn't my point anyway.


I suspect you're incapable of making a point. Also, the latest number in isk destroyed, not counting the miners, is 1743b. The miners were 85b.

I'm not giving you our private killboard/spreadsheets, so if you want to figure out then open up PYFA, get a pen and some paper, and get to work. It shouldn't take you long.
Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
#37 - 2012-10-27 23:00:32 UTC
Vanyr Andrard wrote:
Touval Lysander wrote:


I care not for the statistics. I care for when people use statistics without including ALL data.

Ever heard of the cliche "Lies, Damn Lies and Statistics"? Do you know what it means?



I hear someone whining that people aren't spoonfeeding him information for free. Hope I never meet this person who feels so entitled.

Would it help if I ask nicely where I can locate said data? How do I go about "looking up these numbers" myself rather than be err..... "spoon fed"?

Concord KM's?
Honest Goons?

I was genuinely interested in what it cost to kill 1.5t - even help you stroke the e-peen a bit.

But. meh.


"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#38 - 2012-10-27 23:01:08 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
One could only wish eh. Anyway the point is obvious, ganking needs to be nerfed.

Again.

Don't worry, it's coming december 4th.

Yeah.. yeah it is, I guess ... Sad
Sir Marksalot wrote:
I'm not giving you our private killboard/spreadsheets, so if you want to figure out then open up PYFA, get a pen and some paper, and get to work. It shouldn't take you long.

No, you must give all the links to private data, you evil liar.

ALL THE LINKS.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#39 - 2012-10-27 23:01:22 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Vanyr Andrard wrote:
Sir Marksalot wrote:
I don't think we bothered to post our thousands of dead ships on our killboard really. But it's not hard to figure out what it takes to kill a freighter and multiply that by what we killed. A good place to start would be our most expensive ship, the Talos.


That would require him to search through baltec's posts for at least 40-50 seconds to find how many freighters made up that 1.5T figure. 40-50 seconds he could be using to write incoherent attacks on those he envies. Not going to happen.

One could only wish eh. Anyway the point is obvious, ganking needs to be nerfed.

Again.


Please dopn't. I need my fix of forum tears from time to time.
Sir Marksalot
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#40 - 2012-10-27 23:02:31 UTC
Vanyr Andrard wrote:
Sir Marksalot wrote:
Vanyr Andrard wrote:
Touval Lysander wrote:


I care not for the statistics. I care for when people use statistics without including ALL data.

Ever heard of the cliche "Lies, Damn Lies and Statistics"? Do you know what it means?




I hear someone whining that people aren't spoonfeeding him information for free. Hope I never meet this person who feels so entitled.



I don't think we bothered to post our thousands of dead ships on our killboard really. But it's not hard to figure out what it takes to kill a freighter and multiply that by what we killed. A good place to start would be our most expensive ship, the Talos.


That would require him to search through baltec's posts for at least 40-50 seconds to find how many freighters made up that 1.5T figure. 40-50 seconds he could be using to write incoherent attacks on those he envies. Not going to happen.

You don't even necessarily need the number we killed to get a rough estimate. But if he's not clever enough to figure it out on his own than so be it.