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Simple question to all the high sec miners out there

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Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
#121 - 2012-10-26 23:05:40 UTC
Herr Hammer Draken wrote:
The flip side of this is the cost of the destroyers are going up as well with the winter update.

They will? How so?

"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
Herr Hammer Draken
#122 - 2012-10-26 23:09:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Herr Hammer Draken
Touval Lysander wrote:
Herr Hammer Draken wrote:
The flip side of this is the cost of the destroyers are going up as well with the winter update.

They will? How so?


There is reading the dev blogs and then there is understanding what you read.

Herr Hammer Draken "The Amarr Prophet"
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#123 - 2012-10-27 00:10:28 UTC
Herr Hammer Draken wrote:
Touval Lysander wrote:
Herr Hammer Draken wrote:
The flip side of this is the cost of the destroyers are going up as well with the winter update.

They will? How so?


There is reading the dev blogs and then there is understanding what you read.

Any pointers in the right direction, like which specific blog you are referring to?
Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
#124 - 2012-10-27 00:17:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Touval Lysander
Herr Hammer Draken wrote:
Touval Lysander wrote:
Herr Hammer Draken wrote:
The flip side of this is the cost of the destroyers are going up as well with the winter update.

They will? How so?


There is reading the dev blogs and then there is understanding what you read.

Ah OK. A little forum game.

Let's have 5 posts extracting an INNER THOUGHT that is NOT REPLICATED within said post.

Question One: Which dev blog?

Question Two: You said dev blogs - PLURAL - do we thus assume I have to read EVERY dev blog or should I just pick one at random with the word DESTROYER in it and know wtf you're on about?

"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
Herr Hammer Draken
#125 - 2012-10-27 00:18:39 UTC
Tyberius Franklin wrote:
Herr Hammer Draken wrote:
Touval Lysander wrote:
Herr Hammer Draken wrote:
The flip side of this is the cost of the destroyers are going up as well with the winter update.

They will? How so?


There is reading the dev blogs and then there is understanding what you read.

Any pointers in the right direction, like which specific blog you are referring to?


You will get a pretty good idea tomorrow on duality.

Herr Hammer Draken "The Amarr Prophet"
Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
#126 - 2012-10-27 00:21:18 UTC
Herr Hammer Draken wrote:
Tyberius Franklin wrote:
Herr Hammer Draken wrote:
Touval Lysander wrote:
Herr Hammer Draken wrote:
The flip side of this is the cost of the destroyers are going up as well with the winter update.

They will? How so?


There is reading the dev blogs and then there is understanding what you read.

Any pointers in the right direction, like which specific blog you are referring to?


You will get a pretty good idea tomorrow on duality.

oh my Roll

"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
Optimo Sebiestor
The New Eden School of trade
Organization of Skill Extracting Corporations
#127 - 2012-10-27 00:37:38 UTC
My guess is prices will go up, miners will go down.. Nothing new.. oh, almost forgot, someone will make some isk. Now look at this awsome movie from 1970 called The Love War..
Zagdul
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#128 - 2012-10-27 00:59:05 UTC
I wanna be able to put bounty on bad posts.

Dual Pane idea: Click!

CCP Please Implement
Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
#129 - 2012-10-27 01:13:17 UTC
Zagdul wrote:
I wanna be able to put bounty on bad posts.


That has been discussed in another thread. +BOUNTY next to +LIKE.

Which would in fact create self-imposed moderation Cool



"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
Hypercake Mix
#130 - 2012-10-27 01:39:55 UTC
I'm less worried about my mining ship and more worried about my two PvE ships.
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#131 - 2012-10-27 02:13:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Tyberius Franklin
Yay, math!
Smiknight
Smiknight Corporation
#132 - 2012-10-27 02:21:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Smiknight
Nanatoa wrote:
In addition to bumping, come Retribution we will start placing bounties on any miners refusing to buy a mining permit.
Don't say you weren't warned



My friend was once warned that, by bumping a miner continually and preventing him from playing the game, i.e. griefing and thus, he was getting his one and only warning. Yes, he did try to ransom the guy for isk. So when I told him about the wishy-washies "taking" systems by bumping players incessantly and demanding isk. he was pretty pissed off about it. About them not getting warnings and cease and desist orders, that is.
A reward devoid of risk is no reward at all, but is instead a handout.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#133 - 2012-10-27 03:06:22 UTC
Smiknight wrote:
Nanatoa wrote:
In addition to bumping, come Retribution we will start placing bounties on any miners refusing to buy a mining permit.
Don't say you weren't warned

My friend was once warned that, by bumping a miner continually and preventing him from playing the game, i.e. griefing and thus, he was getting his one and only warning. Yes, he did try to ransom the guy for isk. So when I told him about the wishy-washies "taking" systems by bumping players incessantly and demanding isk. he was pretty pissed off about it. About them not getting warnings and cease and desist orders, that is.

Time to petition james 315 like what everyone else does eh.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Smiknight
Smiknight Corporation
#134 - 2012-10-27 04:05:49 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Smiknight wrote:
Nanatoa wrote:
In addition to bumping, come Retribution we will start placing bounties on any miners refusing to buy a mining permit.
Don't say you weren't warned

My friend was once warned that, by bumping a miner continually and preventing him from playing the game, i.e. griefing and thus, he was getting his one and only warning. Yes, he did try to ransom the guy for isk. So when I told him about the wishy-washies "taking" systems by bumping players incessantly and demanding isk. he was pretty pissed off about it. About them not getting warnings and cease and desist orders, that is.

Time to petition james 315 like what everyone else does eh.


Nah, not hardly. But CCP needs to at least apply one rule to everyone, or just let the players drive the game. I wager part of it is because, like him or not, James is a well-known face.
A reward devoid of risk is no reward at all, but is instead a handout.
Keeshala Catari
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#135 - 2012-10-27 04:33:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Keeshala Catari
I don't suppose it has occured to any of you, that if you grief the miners enough, they'll just simply quit EVE. There are a LOT of high sec miners. Several thousand I believe.
I don't think CCP can afford to let your miner griefing continue to the point where it causes a large loss of subs because of your inconsiderate actions. This isn't a game that has millions of subs. We have around 200-300k subs and we need each and every on plus bringing more IN, so this awesome game will stay running.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#136 - 2012-10-27 05:01:01 UTC
Keeshala Catari wrote:
I don't suppose it has occured to any of you, that if you grief the miners enough, they'll just simply quit EVE. There are a LOT of high sec miners. Several thousand I believe.
I don't think CCP can afford to let your miner griefing continue to the point where it causes a large loss of subs because of your inconsiderate actions. This isn't a game that has millions of subs. We have around 200-300k subs and we need each and every on plus bringing more IN, so this awesome game will stay running.

Oh, an unsub post. Or rather one heralding unsub posts, eh.

Get better at it, this is too obvious.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#137 - 2012-10-27 05:01:11 UTC
Keeshala Catari wrote:
I don't suppose it has occured to any of you, that if you grief the miners enough, they'll just simply quit EVE. There are a LOT of high sec miners. Several thousand I believe.

This is literally the first time we've heard of this. And here I thought there were just a handful.

Keeshala Catari wrote:
I don't think CCP can afford to let your miner griefing continue to the point where it causes a large loss of subs because of your inconsiderate actions. This isn't a game that has millions of subs. We have around 200-300k subs and we need each and every on plus bringing more IN, so this awesome game will stay running.

hurr eve trammel durr

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Shizuken
Venerated Stars
#138 - 2012-10-27 05:16:50 UTC
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
Nanatoa wrote:
In addition to bumping, come Retribution we will start placing bounties on any miners refusing to buy a mining permit.
Don't say you weren't warned


Thus proving your crusade is not actually against AFK/Bot miners, but against anyone who won't bow down and give you money.
If it really was against AFK/Bot miners, you wouldn't be including the legit miners in your efforts. And (per your manifesto) would be giving a little longer than 5 secs to reply.


Edit: To the actual Op, I forgot to include this the first time, change to Procurer/Skiff. Fit at least 1 Stab (Though I often do that already if there are war decs on corp), continue to mine away like I do currently, keeping an eye on local, watching who is in the area with me, and warp off if I think a gank is going to happen.


Amen to this. All that AFK/Bot nonsense is just a pretext to carry on their antisocial ways. All they want to do is destroy other peoples stuff and bathe in the grief. They are sociopaths, nothing else. They won't admit it though because they know once they do, they are nothing more than common thugs with ZERO legitimacy.
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#139 - 2012-10-27 05:21:14 UTC
Shizuken wrote:
Amen to this. All that AFK/Bot nonsense is just a pretext to carry on their antisocial ways. All they want to do is destroy other peoples stuff and bathe in the grief. They are sociopaths, nothing else. They won't admit it though because they know once they do, they are nothing more than common thugs with ZERO legitimacy.

hurr people who shoot other people's ships are sociopaths and should be locked up and medicated because they are literally a menace and a danger to society

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#140 - 2012-10-27 05:22:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Alavaria Fera
Lord Zim wrote:
Keeshala Catari wrote:
I don't suppose it has occured to any of you, that if you grief the miners enough, they'll just simply quit EVE. There are a LOT of high sec miners. Several thousand I believe.

This is literally the first time we've heard of this. And here I thought there were just a handful.

Keeshala Catari wrote:
I don't think CCP can afford to let your miner griefing continue to the point where it causes a large loss of subs because of your inconsiderate actions. This isn't a game that has millions of subs. We have around 200-300k subs and we need each and every on plus bringing more IN, so this awesome game will stay running.

hurr eve trammel durr

I don't think it's the fir-

Oh, I see what you're getting at.
Lord Zim wrote:
Shizuken wrote:
Amen to this. All that AFK/Bot nonsense is just a pretext to carry on their antisocial ways. All they want to do is destroy other peoples stuff and bathe in the grief. They are sociopaths, nothing else. They won't admit it though because they know once they do, they are nothing more than common thugs with ZERO legitimacy.

hurr people who shoot other people's ships are sociopaths and should be locked up and medicated because they are literally a menace and a danger to society

Medicated?

Unless you mean "medicated" with something quite actually never mind that.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?