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Redeem PLEX for Skillpoints.

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Suo Pavlichenko
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2012-10-26 22:19:18 UTC
Hello fellow capsuleers. Have you ever been spinning in station looking at a cool new ship that you want to fly, but realize it would take weeks, or months even to fly it properly? No one wants to sit through Capital Ships V to fly their titan. I propose that CCP add a new addition in the the redemption of PLEX, by allowing pilots to recieve unallocated SP.

I know you're thinking, "This is a horrible idea!" it's a "Pay to Win" idea, and the deepest pockets would have the most SP. As upfront as that suggestion would be, let's take a look at the Character bazaar. Players are spending money on PLEX, to redeem into ISK, to pay for a character who fits their cup of tea at the moment. Essentially a pay to win situation.

Now I've looked into the average SP/Hour for what a PLEX might convert into. Given that a PLEX grants a month of gametime, and average pilot trains at about 2300 SP/Hour (1.6mil SP/Month) it would be acceptable to redeem PLEX into 1.5mil unallocated SP. The only 'real' negative outcome I see from this is the price per PLEX would jump. This is only a brainstormed analysis however and their could be many more issues.

So, I've brought the idea to you all and want to hear your constructive unput. Pros/Cons. Thanks for listening.
KrakizBad
Section 8.
#2 - 2012-10-26 22:20:26 UTC
I refer you to the 'yo momma' thread.
Azumi Zimu
#3 - 2012-10-26 22:23:50 UTC
It may destroy people's will to play though.
Nylith Empyreal
Sutar Rein
#4 - 2012-10-26 22:25:22 UTC
The convenience would be divine I'm sure, but something tells me in a particularly loud fashion that eve thrives on patience and I doubt such thing will be doubt learned via bought sp. Besides, imagine how many twats would try to train for titan thinking i-win, there are enough of those bloody ships in eve. But yes I will not hide the fact that buying sp would be great, but only to those who've played before, for everyone else will have learned nothing.

Who's the more foolish the fool or the fool who replies to him?
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2012-10-26 22:28:58 UTC
Do we really have to explain once again why this is an utterly terrible idea?

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Viktor Fel
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2012-10-26 22:30:45 UTC
This idea is fail and you should feel bad for even mentioning this fail OP.

Who is Viktor Fel?

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Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-10-26 22:32:39 UTC
Suo Pavlichenko wrote:
Hello fellow capsuleers. Have you ever been spinning in station looking at a cool new ship that you want to fly, but realize it would take weeks, or months even to fly it properly? No one wants to sit through Capital Ships V to fly their titan. I propose that CCP add a new addition in the the redemption of PLEX, by allowing pilots to recieve unallocated SP.

I know you're thinking, "This is a horrible idea!" it's a "Pay to Win" idea, and the deepest pockets would have the most SP. As upfront as that suggestion would be, let's take a look at the Character bazaar. Players are spending money on PLEX, to redeem into ISK, to pay for a character who fits their cup of tea at the moment. Essentially a pay to win situation.

Now I've looked into the average SP/Hour for what a PLEX might convert into. Given that a PLEX grants a month of gametime, and average pilot trains at about 2300 SP/Hour (1.6mil SP/Month) it would be acceptable to redeem PLEX into 1.5mil unallocated SP. The only 'real' negative outcome I see from this is the price per PLEX would jump. This is only a brainstormed analysis however and their could be many more issues.

So, I've brought the idea to you all and want to hear your constructive unput. Pros/Cons. Thanks for listening.


"You can already buy a character off of the forums so why not just straight up sell SP for PLEX!?"

Because you can already buy a character off of the forums.

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svenska flicka
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-10-26 22:33:11 UTC
go play an ftp, pay to win game instead, I hear they are awesome (not...)
S'Way
State War Academy
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-10-26 22:33:33 UTC
You do realise some of us would just convert enough plexes to train every skill to lvl 5 and have nothing left to train ?

Terrible idea - if you want a high sp character that badly, buy one in the character bazaar.
Ammzi
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#10 - 2012-10-26 22:44:22 UTC
Hi Op.




No.
Karak Terrel
Foundation for CODE and THE NEW ORDER
#11 - 2012-10-26 22:44:42 UTC
Suo Pavlichenko wrote:

I know you're thinking, "This is a horrible idea!" it's a "Pay to Win" idea


Actually it is a "pay to fly expensive stuff you can't pilot yet" idea.
octahexx Charante
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2012-10-26 22:45:36 UTC
the differance with buying a char is that it took time to skill that character that is for sale.
its not a instant product.

In the real world skilling is how eve keeps you paying for your gametime there would be no benefit to change that for them.

How do you think people who have spent the real world money and time to skill stuff suddenly be surrounded by 1 month old chars who can outSP them?

All those years just booosh gone...would you feel like you just got cheated maybe?
Bernie Nator
Seal Club Six
Plug N Play
#13 - 2012-10-26 22:46:46 UTC
This is a terrible idea. You'd have people stumbling about trying to figure out what to do next but because their skills are maxed they'll just make bad choices, get fed up and quit. Part of the long train means you've actually got to sit and think about what you want to do with your new skills, and how to maximize the gain you get from it.

I'd also point out that people would go from crap to instawin with the buying of sp, but that arguement is reserved for someone way more sarcastic than me.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#14 - 2012-10-26 22:48:16 UTC
Terrible idea is terrible.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Athena Themis
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2012-10-26 22:49:17 UTC
Your idea is so bad I almost thought you were working for ccp.
Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#16 - 2012-10-26 22:50:16 UTC
If there's going to be skillpoints at all, this is a bad idea.

110+ mil SP here... I say get rid of skillpoints altogether and make the game more about real skills.

Signatures should be used responsibly...
Azami Nevinyrall
172.0.0.1
#17 - 2012-10-26 23:01:09 UTC
No.....just....no....seriously!

...
admiral root
Red Galaxy
#18 - 2012-10-26 23:01:15 UTC
I commend the OP for showing good netiquette and searching before posting this horribad idea.

No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff
Devon Krah'tor
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2012-10-26 23:05:03 UTC
buy a toon at the bizarre
pay for skills with plex...

what exactly is the difference?
Greater.Insight.Skill.Knowledge
Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
#20 - 2012-10-26 23:09:33 UTC
NO

Not even going to read why we should.

My $n dollars sitting in the bank would allow me to bypass the whole reason I am here. It would make you, the poor man, subject to my awesomeness.

We get enough of that in RL to know it's BAD. Mmmm..k...

"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
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