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Benghazi reality check.

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Lord breathenstein
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2012-10-26 14:05:16 UTC
Destination SkillQueue
Doomheim
#2 - 2012-10-26 14:14:49 UTC
Wow. I didn't look at any of the actual content, but by look and headlines the site just screams "unrealiable" and "trash" Lol
Jim Era
#3 - 2012-10-26 14:15:21 UTC
nah everybodys known about this.
we knew about it before it happened.

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Lord breathenstein
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2012-10-26 14:23:16 UTC
Destination SkillQueue wrote:
Wow. I didn't look at any of the actual content, but by look and headlines the site just screams "unrealiable" and "trash" Lol



Your calling this trash ?

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/joe-biden-to-father-of-former-navy-seal-killed-in-benghazi-did-your-son-always-have-balls-the-size-of-cue-balls/

Or perhaps you just think it's funny ?
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#5 - 2012-10-26 14:28:01 UTC
Sounds like a republican smear attempt to me.
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#6 - 2012-10-26 15:13:36 UTC
Yeah I've been following this closely since 9/11 from all the angles. This is beyond elections or politics. They knew. I mean drones or not, they have been able to image a coin from satellites for over 20 years at a moments notice. And they absolutely have drones over that region 24/7. They even had eyes on the ground with targeting lasers on the mortars, undoubtedly. This is as bad as bad can be.

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Bane Necran
Appono Astos
#7 - 2012-10-26 15:34:10 UTC
Webvan wrote:
This is as bad as bad can be.


Nah, Pearl Harbor was worse.

This sort of thing is neither new or shocking.

"In the void is virtue, and no evil. Wisdom has existence, principle has existence, the Way has existence, spirit is nothingness." ~Miyamoto Musashi
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#8 - 2012-10-26 16:14:24 UTC
Bane Necran wrote:
Webvan wrote:
This is as bad as bad can be.


Nah, Pearl Harbor was worse.

This sort of thing is neither new or shocking.

This is here and now, our responsibility. I didn't say new or shocking, but bad.
So you were shocked over Pearl Harbor? You are a lot older than me. The nasty details were uncovered long before I was born. I do remember operation eagle claw in 1979 very well, this is 100x worse. Not only fail, but cover-up, and fail cover-up. Contemptible.

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Bane Necran
Appono Astos
#9 - 2012-10-26 16:26:58 UTC
I was just establishing the trend. Which goes beyond whatever president may be elected at the time.

Many people are all excited about how they can pin this on Obama, but that's all a side show. Ignore the man behind the curtain!

"In the void is virtue, and no evil. Wisdom has existence, principle has existence, the Way has existence, spirit is nothingness." ~Miyamoto Musashi
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#10 - 2012-10-26 16:41:03 UTC
Bane Necran wrote:
I was just establishing the trend. Which goes beyond whatever president may be elected at the time.

Many people are all excited about how they can pin this on Obama, but that's all a side show. Ignore the man behind the curtain!
In whatever case, this administration is intertwined. Even the liberal media has been starting to suggest he just come out with it. As for pinning this on Obama, or someones previous comment it is republican whatever, I'm a US citizen and not a Republican. This transcends political alignment. It's really a matter of getting to the bottom of this so that we don't see a repeat in the near future.

But nonetheless, ibtl, eventually someone will come by and say trash to attempt a forced lock, just like has happened multiple times on the memorial thread in GD.

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#11 - 2012-10-26 16:58:27 UTC
Its a Glenn Beck pet project site. It has around the same sort of factual quality as the flat earth society.
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#12 - 2012-10-26 17:50:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Webvan
baltec1 wrote:
Its a Glenn Beck pet project site. It has around the same sort of factual quality as the flat earth society.
You're 14yo and live in the UK? Right? You have Glenn Beck there? You know we had hearings on cspan here? That's Glenn Beck too? I watched the hearings, live, I don't recall seeing Glenn Beck there.

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Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2012-10-26 18:01:13 UTC
Webvan wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Its a Glenn Beck pet project site. It has around the same sort of factual quality as the flat earth society.
You're 14yo and live in the UK? Right? You have Glenn Beck there? You know we had hearings on cspan here? That's Glenn Beck too? I watched the hearings, live, I don't recall seeing Glenn Beck there.

no, they have (had?) The Sun.

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#14 - 2012-10-26 18:06:07 UTC
Webvan wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Its a Glenn Beck pet project site. It has around the same sort of factual quality as the flat earth society.
You're 14yo and live in the UK? Right? You have Glenn Beck there? You know we had hearings on cspan here? That's Glenn Beck too?


Even over here we know him as a moronic republican who will stoop to any low. This whole thing is a disgusting example of someone trying to gain poltitical points by telling lies about a tragic event. An event in which a good friend of many in EVE was attacked while chatting with them and murdered.

Dont try to defend a man like Glenn Beck and never belive a word from him.
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#15 - 2012-10-26 18:18:05 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Dont try to defend a man like Glenn Beck and never belive a word from him.
I can defend him if I want. However I don't see in my post where I did. Nor would I. Discussing Beck really adds nothing to the conversation, nor does Beck diminish what has been going on here including testimony of those involved as well as family members of the dead that are demanding accountability on these issues, and very well should be.

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Bane Necran
Appono Astos
#16 - 2012-10-26 18:19:07 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Dont try to defend a man like Glenn Beck and never belive a word from him.


I have a hate for Glenn Beck that burns with the fire of a thousand suns myself, but don't outright ignore everything that has even a casual association with him. Read what's there and judge for yourself what the truth is. If needed, do research.

So many people act like you either have to accept something without question or deny it without investigation. There's another way, you know.

"In the void is virtue, and no evil. Wisdom has existence, principle has existence, the Way has existence, spirit is nothingness." ~Miyamoto Musashi
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#17 - 2012-10-26 18:44:00 UTC
Bane Necran wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Dont try to defend a man like Glenn Beck and never belive a word from him.


I have a hate for Glenn Beck that burns with the fire of a thousand suns myself, but don't outright ignore everything that has even a casual association with him. Read what's there and judge for yourself what the truth is. If needed, do research.

So many people act like you either have to accept something without question or deny it without investigation. There's another way, you know.


I read through all of that. Its nothing but speculation and rumours twisted into something to suit his political goals. He even got in contact with reletives and fed them this stuff for his radio show.
Bane Necran
Appono Astos
#18 - 2012-10-26 18:58:11 UTC
I said i disagree with all the stuff trying to make it about Obama. But not because i lurv Obama or anything, i just don't think the president has the kind of absolute control over everything some others do.

Just find the details of the attack itself are fairly accurate, and can be found from other, non-Beck related, sources.

"In the void is virtue, and no evil. Wisdom has existence, principle has existence, the Way has existence, spirit is nothingness." ~Miyamoto Musashi
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#19 - 2012-10-26 19:12:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Webvan
baltec1 wrote:


I read through all of that. Its nothing but speculation and rumours twisted into something to suit his political goals. He even got in contact with reletives and fed them this stuff for his radio show.


Here, try google news search on Benghazi, it's what I often use though not exclusively. I put the topic over the OP's link, since I don't follow The Blaze at all. I can only assume that the link will work, since you are in a different country. Currently it's linking to Fox News, Forbes, Washington Examiner, CBS News, American Thinker, CNN (blog) etc etc. I think the Forbes article is the most interesting.

Bane Necran wrote:
i just don't think the president has the kind of absolute control over everything some others do.
Whether or not he did, he does have control over disclosure. Disclosure is more the biting point. If he lacks the information for disclosure, than there are deeper issues. He has never addressed this issue with the American people as of yet, not beyond a sound bite or two.

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Xenuria
#20 - 2012-10-26 19:26:21 UTC
Some things are kept secret or obfuscated by subterfuge to protect the people from their own inability to understand the complexities of a world that is beyond them. - Aaron Bongart

I figured I would quote myself for once.

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