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So your ratting/running anoms in null sec a red shows up it local, you do what?

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Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
#41 - 2012-10-26 06:02:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Touval Lysander
Azumi Zimu wrote:

...Nasty things to Andski

Andski wrote:

...Nasty things to Azumi


Harry Potter v Goon?

"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
Azumi Zimu
#42 - 2012-10-26 06:02:28 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:

No, his risk is the possible loss of his ship if he doesn't pay attention to every single person who comes and goes within the system. When you've been ratting for a few hours, this becomes harder than you think. Your attention wanes, etc.
Some ratters are smart enough to know when they need to take a break. Others push themselves, sometimes a little too far, and they don't notice the neutral in system until suddenly there's an Arazu pointing them with a covert cyno lit.



"Oh **** guys I am earning too much ISK my eyes are getting blurry! A bad guy may enter system and I won't immedietly notice!!!"
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#43 - 2012-10-26 06:04:26 UTC
Azumi Zimu wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:

No, his risk is the possible loss of his ship if he doesn't pay attention to every single person who comes and goes within the system. When you've been ratting for a few hours, this becomes harder than you think. Your attention wanes, etc.
Some ratters are smart enough to know when they need to take a break. Others push themselves, sometimes a little too far, and they don't notice the neutral in system until suddenly there's an Arazu pointing them with a covert cyno lit.



"Oh **** guys I am earning too much ISK my eyes are getting blurry! A bad guy may enter system and I won't immedietly notice!!!"

And then guess what happens when you remove local?
Suddenly there's no way for the ratter to know about that Arazu pilot until it's already too late for him to do anything about it whatsoever.
So you're more or less suggesting that CCP make nullsec ratting impossible.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#44 - 2012-10-26 06:06:13 UTC
itt publords confuse mitigated risk with lack of risk

a shocking development indeed

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Azumi Zimu
#45 - 2012-10-26 06:06:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Azumi Zimu
James Amril-Kesh wrote:

And then guess what happens when you remove local?
Suddenly there's no way for the ratter to know about that Arazu pilot until it's already too late for him to do anything about it whatsoever.
So you're more or less suggesting that CCP make nullsec ratting impossible.


I never said remove local, read the thread. I was mocking the goon saying it should remain as is.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#46 - 2012-10-26 06:08:25 UTC
Azumi Zimu wrote:
I never said remove local, read the thread. I was mocking the goon saying it shouldn't remain as is.


at what point did I say that I'm not perfectly fine with the status quo

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#47 - 2012-10-26 06:10:08 UTC
Azumi Zimu wrote:
I never said remove local, read the thread. I was mocking the goon saying it should remain as is.

That's hardly my fault, seeing as you've cast yourself in with those who have argued exactly that, using their same arguments as to why local chat is supposedly overpowered.

So if you're not advocating the removal but rather you're mocking someone who says it's fine, I suppose then you have an alternative that isn't convoluted or stupid?
Or maybe you should take a look at my signature.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Azumi Zimu
#48 - 2012-10-26 06:10:46 UTC
Andski wrote:
Azumi Zimu wrote:
I never said remove local, read the thread. I was mocking the goon saying it shouldn't remain as is.


at what point did I say that I'm not perfectly fine with the status quo


I know you're perfectly fine with the status quo. Farming in complete safety is probably pretty lucrative.
Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
#49 - 2012-10-26 06:10:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Touval Lysander
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Azumi Zimu wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:

No, his risk is the possible loss of his ship if he doesn't pay attention to every single person who comes and goes within the system. When you've been ratting for a few hours, this becomes harder than you think. Your attention wanes, etc.
Some ratters are smart enough to know when they need to take a break. Others push themselves, sometimes a little too far, and they don't notice the neutral in system until suddenly there's an Arazu pointing them with a covert cyno lit.



"Oh **** guys I am earning too much ISK my eyes are getting blurry! A bad guy may enter system and I won't immedietly notice!!!"

And then guess what happens when you remove local?
Suddenly there's no way for the ratter to know about that Arazu pilot until it's already too late for him to do anything about it whatsoever.
So you're more or less suggesting that CCP make nullsec ratting impossible.

Even I, the great, **** NULLSEC AND ALL THAT IT STANDS FOR think local should stay.

0.0 is a cool place and nothing should change.
.
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If we just kick all the morons out, local can be used for it's proper purpose. With 0.0 as a retirement home for old miners and missioners, they can have a lovely chat in it before their hot chocolate and bed time.

"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
Azumi Zimu
#50 - 2012-10-26 06:11:52 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Azumi Zimu wrote:
I never said remove local, read the thread. I was mocking the goon saying it should remain as is.

That's hardly my fault, seeing as you've cast yourself in with those who have argued exactly that, using their same arguments as to why local chat is supposedly overpowered.

So if you're not advocating the removal but rather you're mocking someone who says it's fine, I suppose then you have an alternative that isn't convoluted or stupid?
Or maybe you should take a look at my signature.


Maybe you should should drop the charade and fork over 10$ so you can join Andski
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#51 - 2012-10-26 06:15:43 UTC
Azumi Zimu wrote:
Farming in complete safety is probably pretty lucrative.

Now you know why so many nullsec players have highsec alts.

Azumi Zimu wrote:
Maybe you should should drop the charade and fork over 10$ so you can join Andski

What charade might that be?

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#52 - 2012-10-26 06:15:55 UTC
Azumi Zimu wrote:
I know you're perfectly fine with the status quo. Farming in complete safety is probably pretty lucrative.


yeah i clearly farm NPCs in nullsec like a plebeian, that's why I have a perfect 5.0 sec status and definitely not solid -10

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#53 - 2012-10-26 06:18:58 UTC
also the complete safety of PvE in nullsec is why members of gigantic sov-holding alliances have farmed things like hisec incursions and faction warfare (gee, all I have to do is speed tank some NPCs in a frigate!) instead of farming ISK in the "complete safety" of ~teh blue nbsi shield~

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#54 - 2012-10-26 06:19:49 UTC
One wonders why I'd pay $10 to join someone who continually insults my method of income.
Not that I care all that much, but the maths don't quite add up there, you see.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Azumi Zimu
#55 - 2012-10-26 06:20:28 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Azumi Zimu wrote:
Farming in complete safety is probably pretty lucrative.

Now you know why so many nullsec players have highsec alts.

Azumi Zimu wrote:
Maybe you should should drop the charade and fork over 10$ so you can join Andski

What charade might that be?


I think you answered your own question

I'm sure he appreciates he enjoys having you as a flunkie
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#56 - 2012-10-26 06:22:11 UTC
I think you're giving him too much credit.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#57 - 2012-10-26 06:22:24 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
One wonders why I'd pay $10 to join someone who continually insults my method of income.
Not that I care all that much, but the maths don't quite add up there, you see.


nothing personal I just despise ratting and the drama it generates because it's such a terrible way to make ISK compared to convincing somebody that, yes, you will move all of their stuff to Deklein in a jump freighter once they put down that security deposit to join your honourable space guild

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Azumi Zimu
#58 - 2012-10-26 06:22:47 UTC
Andski wrote:
Azumi Zimu wrote:
I know you're perfectly fine with the status quo. Farming in complete safety is probably pretty lucrative.


yeah i clearly farm NPCs in nullsec like a plebeian, that's why I have a perfect 5.0 sec status and definitely not solid -10



Lol it's so impressive that you attack miners in high-sec who have to put up with actual risk, unlike you

such an ebil piwate
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#59 - 2012-10-26 06:23:49 UTC
Azumi Zimu wrote:
Lol it's so impressive that you attack miners in high-sec who have to put up with actual risk, unlike you

such an ebil piwate


yeah if only hisec had CONCORD just like nullsec

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Azumi Zimu
#60 - 2012-10-26 06:26:57 UTC
Andski wrote:
Azumi Zimu wrote:
Lol it's so impressive that you attack miners in high-sec who have to put up with actual risk, unlike you

such an ebil piwate


yeah if only hisec had CONCORD just like nullsec


Oh no did your 5m catalyst get blown up after you ganked.. I mean piwated a defenseless miner.

No need for CONCORD in nullsec apparently as the carebears only worry is possibly being "inconvenienced" by the RIGHT CLICK -> DOCK "risk"