Skill Discussions

I don't think it should be allowed. I fly Minmatar ships and with that projectile.

I think that once you choose your blood line you should be limited in game to what you fly and shoot.

If your allowed to cross train I reckon it should take me a bloodly lot longer to do for example

I should train cannons at a certain rate because that's Minmatar weapon of choice on most of its ships.

If I wanted to train to fly an Amarr ship I reckon is should take me longer than an Amarr pilot. I mean come on stands to reason yea?

I really reckon CCP missed a trick here but is it too late to implement and what you all reckon? do you see my point of view?

I mean right now if you wanna fly another races ship you just train and fly the next flavour of the month.

Do something about it CCP will ya?

Tough Id say. Ive played countless games from the 80's until now many of which are MMORPG where a the start you pick a race and set your attributes only to find months or even years later you would have done things differently. Like life in fact??

So poppy **** my dear boy.

Horrible horrible awful ridiculously brain-damaging idea.

EVE does not suffer from the fucktardness of those half-century old class/level-based design that, for some unfathomable reason, persist to this day. This is a very very good thing and there is no reason why it would ever need to be inflicted by such a loathsome design flaw.

We've had the age of Caldari Achura master race once, we don't need it again.

I agree with you in principle but realistically it's never going to happen.
Fact of the matter is you need more than one race's skills to be good at a variety of roles.

Personally, I have all races up to caps trained on my main so I can do everything decently but my T2 ship skills are at 4s (mostly) due to the training time needed for such cross training and on my alts i stick to 1 race and really perfect the skills and have all the T2 ship skills to 5.
This way I can do whatever is needed on my main but when I need something done really well, I bring a specialized alt.

(yes i know not everyone plays with many accounts but it's how i roll.)

You get that, though - you get free levels in your own racial ships and weapons from the get-go. And anyway, in-game, you're a cybernetic post-human demigod, whatever your race.

You can always take your thought to Features and Ideas Discussion and see what sort of response it gets. I've done that, with ideas I thought were nifty, and in between the flames, I learned why my ideas were broken.

…and having that choice is good. Removing it for no reason is just good old bad design.

Incorrect on both accounts, which is why I know how outdated the design is and why it needed to put to pasture a long time ago…

It's a game of choices. You are arguing for their removal. This is what's known as a bad combination. The fact that you have to go for the ad hominem and red herring rather than argue your case is what's known as relying on fallacies, and tends to hint at a deep-seated weakness in your position.

Would you like to try again?

I hate the idea,would make me quit in a Mississippi second if they did this.

Realistic you say... OK I'll bite, two comparisons for you here:

Let's say you know how to fly a plane IRL. What would it take for you to fly another type of plane? Would you have to do all your pilot training from the very beginning? No. all you need is to do a short orientation course, some sessions in a class room, some in the simulator and maybe a flight or two in the co-pilots seat, then it's time for the real thing.

Using guns. If you know how to use one type of rifle you already know how to use most (if not all) of the others, you know which way to hold it, how to aim it and how to sque-e-e-e-eze the trigger instead of pulling it. Learning all the technical little details e.g. how to operate the safety, how to load the gun and how to adjust the sights are a trivial matter which don't take long.

So if you want to be realistic then training the other races in eve should take a shorter amount of time then they currently do.



The skills in Eve are mostly enablers and stat enhancers. They don't determine how skillfully you use your ships or tell you how to fit them. That's where the skills between those two flabby things you call ears come into play.