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How to quickly filter out non-WH signatures?
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Tommy Robotic
Chambers of Shaolin
#1 - 2012-10-22 18:42:16 UTC
I can't launch a DSP yet so I have been trying to read up on how to quickly determine if a signature is a WH or not. I have read that it'll show up as "unknown" in the list. Is there a certain size my probes need to be at or a certain distance for this to be true?
Tarunik Raqalth'Qui
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2012-10-22 20:34:17 UTC
Tommy Robotic wrote:
I can't launch a DSP yet so I have been trying to read up on how to quickly determine if a signature is a WH or not. I have read that it'll show up as "unknown" in the list. Is there a certain size my probes need to be at or a certain distance for this to be true?

You need 25% signal strength to discern the type of a signature.
Rayge PVV
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2012-10-22 20:39:20 UTC
You can also try out 'Siggy, ' a web-based program that allows you to see the 'radius' of all signatures from a single scan.

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Malception
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-10-22 20:43:38 UTC
You could also ask in Local. Just saying.
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-10-22 21:33:16 UTC
You don't need to use a DSP, combats work just fine too.
You need to just need to recalibrate your results based off your probe strength off existing charts of sig strengths that are fairly widely available.

Personally I always probe every sig to be 100% sure.
Also, with high probing skills I find using sig strengths is a trivial difference at best in probing speed in WHs.

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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#6 - 2012-10-23 17:44:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
You can use combat probes set to 64 au. If you can't cover a system with one probe, use multiple probes set to cover the system (to avoid having to move a probe, possibly to the wrong spot), but only activate one per scan. Deep space probes are just more convenient at 256 au.

Sort your signatures by signal strength, lowest to highest.

You will notice three major signal strength bands: small, medium (2x small), large (2x medium). [If you find small to be ~0.65 to ~0.75 then it will always be approximately that with the same skill level and equipment.]

Wormholes are predominantly large, with only a very few exceptions (e.g. D792 is small, some C3 are between medium and large). Radar and magnetometric sites are always small, as are high-quality ladar and gravimetric sites.
Faulx
Brother Fox Corp
#7 - 2012-10-24 14:25:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Faulx
Signature Strength (describes the process of elimination you can use with sig strengths; this can be very helpful in certain wormhole systems where the local static is in a the 1/15 or 1/25 band since that wormhole will be the only signature in the system in that band)
Complete Signature Strength List
Wormhole Signature Strength List

Jack Miton wrote:
You don't need to use a DSP, combats work just fine too.

Just bare in mind that signatures on the edge of the probe's scan radius will have a diminished % signal strength and will appear to be in a lower "band" than they would be if they were in the center of the scan.
Tommassino Preldent
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2012-10-25 13:35:57 UTC
There is one more trick you can use sometimes aswell. You know how the signature ids are similar to each other? For example TAL, BAL, CAL etc... Well, when you see a sig that is a different sequence, it means it spawned sometime after the last downtime. These quiet often are wormholes, so if you have multiple sigs of the WH strenght, pick the one with its id standing out.
Svodola Darkfury
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2012-10-26 01:23:49 UTC
Tommassino Preldent wrote:
There is one more trick you can use sometimes aswell. You know how the signature ids are similar to each other? For example TAL, BAL, CAL etc... Well, when you see a sig that is a different sequence, it means it spawned sometime after the last downtime. These quiet often are wormholes, so if you have multiple sigs of the WH strenght, pick the one with its id standing out.



This will help with any K162, Wandering, or static that pops AFTER down-time. If it was up before downtime, its going to match the system's naming scheme.

I usually drop a single 32 au sisters core scanner and look for things in "brackets" of strength. For example, the wormhole I came through is usually a K162, so will show up as 1.25% signature strength on global scan like that. Everything else that is near that (say 1-1.5%) is the same signature strength as my K162, so could therefore be a K162, a ladar, or a grav.

Wormnav uses a signature strength system on a scale of 10; K162s are 10 (so the highest strength). You can step down through the "brackets" of sig strength and approximate where a static will be (say if its a 2.2 sig strength on wormnav, it's likely to be near the bottom, with the Radars/Mags).

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