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You can still earn 200+ mil an hour doing faction warfare
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Areana Starr
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2012-10-25 23:19:35 UTC
With a tier 3 war zone control, you can earn about 25k isk defensive plexing a major with high vulnerability. Let's say you do that twice an hour.

It's much easier to do this now with minmatar than the old offensive plexing because there are many more systems and they are pretty empty compared to the 5 or so systems amarr had previously and that were full of players on both sides. The fitting is really easy too, all you need is 2 warp core stabs. Heck, you can get an incursus with 4 warp core stabs and a cloak.

This would allow you to have 4+ accounts running at same time with no supervision and all you have to do when you hear a target lock it to just warp away to a planet, wait a minute, warp back and cloak. Eventually the guy will leave because he wont be able to spot you anymore. If he stays just go to a different system.

With 4 accounts that's 200 mil isk per hour with lp=1000 isk, which is what it is now. It won't really go down below this cause cheaper faction ships will increase demand anyway, or else everyone will be flying faction stabbers, firetails, etc.
Milton Middleson
Rifterlings
#2 - 2012-10-25 23:27:09 UTC
What's your plan for two weeks from now when the ass-end of Metropolis isn't highly contested anymore?
Areana Starr
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2012-10-25 23:32:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Areana Starr
If amarr isn't doing it, you can always have amarr alts doing offensive plexing to bring it back up
to contested. I'm sure many people have these alts already... And with amarr at warzone control 2, offensive plexing is pretty good money anyway.
Ginger Barbarella
#4 - 2012-10-25 23:33:42 UTC
Areana Starr wrote:
This would allow you to have 4+ accounts running at same time with no supervision and all you have to do when you hear a target lock it to just warp away to a planet, wait a minute, warp back and cloak. Eventually the guy will leave because he wont be able to spot you anymore. If he stays just go to a different system.



Cuz engaging in pvp in a pvp game in a pvp setting is just rude.

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chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Of Essence
#5 - 2012-10-25 23:37:16 UTC
Areana Starr wrote:
With 4 accounts


OP should have read 50M/hr then
Areana Starr
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2012-10-25 23:38:36 UTC
I'm just pointing it out that farming can be done with semi afk alts, not that the system is awesome. Heck, you can pvp with ur main while farming with the alts, since the only way you die is if they get 5 points on you. And what do you lose? 4 warp core stabs since the insurance will most pay for the incursus.
Areana Starr
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2012-10-25 23:40:34 UTC
chatgris wrote:
Areana Starr wrote:
With 4 accounts


OP should have read 50M/hr then


10 hours will pay for four accounts for the whole month, and you are learning skills while doing it
David Campbell
Primas Custos
#8 - 2012-10-25 23:54:30 UTC
It's just sad that the question on everyone's mouth since the new change to FW is how can we milk it efficiently. I thought the point of it was to have fun fighting the other faction. I must have been mistaken.

However for all the farmers out there, I have a pro tip for you that max your ISK/hrs ratio : Get a another job, buy plex with real money and sell it for ISK. If all you want is ISK, it's the best way to do it and I'm sure you can earn billions per month.
Areana Starr
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2012-10-26 00:00:51 UTC
David Campbell wrote:
It's just sad that the question on everyone's mouth since the new change to FW is how can we milk it efficiently. I thought the point of it was to have fun fighting the other faction. I must have been mistaken.

However for all the farmers out there, I have a pro tip for you that max your ISK/hrs ratio : Get a another job, buy plex with real money and sell it for ISK. If all you want is ISK, it's the best way to do it and I'm sure you can earn billions per month.


That is the point, but it needs to be implement better. The reason I posted it is to point out that it is still very farmable so it needs to be changed.

I mean it can be farmed WHILE playing your main. So you can enjoy eve how you want while still making a lot of isk. With 4 accounts farming, you can be loosing 2-4 battle cruisers every hour and still come out ahead.
sYnc Vir
Wolfsbrigade
Ghost Legion.
#10 - 2012-10-26 00:02:43 UTC
200m an hour, really

So you can kill all the rats to bounce it back up and down and maintain 200m an hour, while non farming retards try and kill you. Amazing.

Im trying to work out in my head, how much slower a four man FW Mission Tengu gang would have to run, even with the 5 mission each cap, just to drop down to 200m an hour.

Best I can do is,..... A LOT!.

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kraiklyn Asatru
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2012-10-26 00:06:33 UTC
Even better, with four accounts and 200m an hour only he will drop even below the casual, just having fun shooting npcs carebears in highsec. You know those guys not desperately trying to make cash.
Areana Starr
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2012-10-26 00:13:53 UTC
kraiklyn Asatru wrote:
Even better, with four accounts and 200m an hour only he will drop even below the casual, just having fun shooting npcs carebears in highsec. You know those guys not desperately trying to make cash.



How do you make 200 mil an hour shooting npcs in high sec?


Of course mission running is a lot better, but you will need much better skills, ship, etc. my point is you can do this with brand new accounts while doing other things. Heck, you can do your tengu mission running while doing this defensive plexing.
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#13 - 2012-10-26 00:24:23 UTC
you can probably make 200mil/hour with 4 accounts running HS L4 missions so, not all that impressed.

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Areana Starr
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2012-10-26 00:30:24 UTC
Jack Miton wrote:
you can probably make 200mil/hour with 4 accounts running HS L4 missions so, not all that impressed.



Isn't it a lot harder to multi task 4 accounts running level 4 missions than 4 afk accounts? For level 4s, you need good skills for battleships, good standings... Not that easy to have 4 accounts than can do that, much less actually controlling 4 battleships at once.

With defensive plexing, you have 4 brand new accounts that pretty much afk.

Do you see the imbalance here?
Milton Middleson
Rifterlings
#15 - 2012-10-26 00:55:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Milton Middleson
...for two or three weeks until the ass-end of Metropolis is no longer highly contested.

At which point you need at least 4 Amarr alts to counterbalance the effects of your AFK deplexers. Which will require you to be at the keyboard, since you will need to kill the rats and run away from the people trying to kill you. And you'll be competing with other good for nothing farmers for valuable plexes in highly contested systems.

So you wind up running 8-10 alts in what ends up being a fairly labour intensive way of pulling in ~40 million per character-hour. This doesn't quite trip my 'omg broken' meter.
Areana Starr
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2012-10-26 01:05:19 UTC
You don't need 4 new alts, you can switch militias, or the alts can be on the same 4 accounts. The defensive plex alts dont need any skills.

Btw how much does ice mining make? I can afk mine in a retriever for 10+ mil an hour but that isn't anywhere near as good
Asari Tadaruwa
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2012-10-26 01:21:19 UTC
with this logic you can make 1b an hour with FW. just takes 25 accounts
Areana Starr
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2012-10-26 01:33:38 UTC
No, because there needs to be a balance between how many available systems there are, how much attention each account requires, etc.


Sure If fw was completely empty than you can run 25 accounts, but it's not and finding a good system still takes some time and there are pirates/opposing militia members.

4 accounts is used in the example because it's easy, very doable, and doesn't require much set up and activity.
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#19 - 2012-10-26 02:11:31 UTC
Youre missing the point.
If youre paying for 4 accounts, there are better things you can do with your time than afk.

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Areana Starr
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2012-10-26 02:17:49 UTC
While ur training up those accounts to do "better" things, you can afk plex. I mean your alts need to be trained up anyway right?

You are also forgetting that you can essentially get free accounts by the buddy system. Sure you have to upgrade, but you also get the plex
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