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X-L ASB Cyclone

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Berendas
Ascendant Operations
#1 - 2012-10-24 16:06:05 UTC
Hey all, I'm coming back from a ~9 month break and I'm trying to catch up with all that's changed. I think that ASB's are pretty honky-tonk silly (especially that you get the same boost from a smaller charge) but that aside I slapped together a quick Cyclone fit and want people's opinions. I imagine that the Cyclone has seen a lot more use with the introduction of ASB's so I'm curious to see how my fit compares to the cookie cutter ones (if there are any), and I apologize if any of the fit is dated since I've obviously been out of the loop for a bit.

=ASB Cyclone=

[Highs]
Dual 180mm Autocannon II
Dual 180mm Autocannon II
Dual 180mm Autocannon II
Dual 180mm Autocannon II
Dual 180mm Autocannon II
Heavy Missile Launcher II
Heavy Missile Launcher II
Medium Energy Neutralizer II

[Meds]
10mn Microwarpdrive II
Warp Disruptor II
X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

[Lows]
Damage Control II
Co-processor II
Co-processor II
Gyrostabilizer II

[Rigs]
Medium Core Defense Operational Solidifier I
Medium Core Defense Operational Solidifier I
Medium Core Defense Operational Solidifier I

[Drones]
5x Hobgoblin II / ECM EC-300 (to taste)

I don't have access to EFT at the moment but the approximate stats without implants or boosts are as follows:
~430 dps
~36k EHP
~1.4 km/s with MWD
1711 dps tank
Lowest shield resist was EM at ~57% and everything else was around 65%-75%
(I apologize for the estimates I am especially fuzzy on the exact resists, but the EHP is within ~3k EHP)


It kills me having to use 2 fitting mods, but they are a necessary evil to get the CPU within allowable levels. My biggest question is am I making good use of the utility high slots? A second medium neut doesn't fit, so I'm not sure where to go with regards to split between missiles/neuts. I've deliberately avoided the Cyclone in the past because of it's hardpoint split, but the ASB's make me want to give it a try. There is a little wiggle-room with both PG and CPU, but not a whole lot.

Thanks for any input, it feels good to be brainstorming fits again Smile
Metal Icarus
Star Frontiers
Brotherhood of Spacers
#2 - 2012-10-24 16:20:35 UTC
asb with operational solidifiers dont help while you are reloading, higher resists do.

Rig for resists.
To mare
Advanced Technology
#3 - 2012-10-24 17:25:23 UTC
if you have the skills for blasters probably you will want to take a look at the ferox
Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#4 - 2012-10-24 21:06:56 UTC
To mare wrote:
if you have the skills for blasters probably you will want to take a look at the ferox


Such an awesome XL ASB platform neglected...

brb

Lenny Snipes
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2012-10-25 03:00:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Lenny Snipes
All the advice above is solid. With two fitting mods in lows you should be able to fit another ASB in place of Invuln, don't have EFT here but I've built one myself, might need a CPU rig. Also, not a biggie but, meta the MWD.

As an aside and since you mentioned brainstorming, consider dropping to light assaults or even rockets to deal with NOS frig hulls, as it stands you would be in trouble if caught by one. DPS loss in the ranges you'll be engaging should be negligible against most targets... just a thought.
Klown Walk
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#6 - 2012-10-25 11:58:54 UTC
[Cyclone, New Setup 1]
Co-Processor II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Damage Control II

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Cap Booster 400
Experimental 10MN MicroWarpdrive I
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I

425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
'Malkuth' Rocket Launcher I, Caldari Navy Scourge Rocket
'Malkuth' Rocket Launcher I, Caldari Navy Scourge Rocket
'Malkuth' Rocket Launcher I, Caldari Navy Scourge Rocket

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I

Hammerhead II x3
Hobgoblin II x2

Needs a 1% cpu implant or you can swap the amplifier for a web.
Lenny Snipes
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2012-10-25 15:01:03 UTC
Klown Walk wrote:
[Cyclone, New Setup 1]
Co-Processor II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Damage Control II

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Cap Booster 400
Experimental 10MN MicroWarpdrive I
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I

425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
'Malkuth' Rocket Launcher I, Caldari Navy Scourge Rocket
'Malkuth' Rocket Launcher I, Caldari Navy Scourge Rocket
'Malkuth' Rocket Launcher I, Caldari Navy Scourge Rocket

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I

Hammerhead II x3
Hobgoblin II x2

Needs a 1% cpu implant or you can swap the amplifier for a web.


This is how to get an embarrassing lossmail, any cruiser (or smaller hull) with scram will be under your guns and then your stuck, don't solo this build.
Klown Walk
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-10-25 16:02:44 UTC
I have killed interceptors with that fit.
Lenny Snipes
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2012-10-25 19:57:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Lenny Snipes
Klown Walk wrote:
I have killed interceptors with that fit.


http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=16572395

Yes, I'm unimpressed, and you missed the point I was making. Tell you what; Bring that fit and I'll bring a T1 frig, let me know where and when...

OP has 180s, full flight of lights and a Neut, he's already doing it better than you. IMO.

Props on the rockets though.
Bugsy VanHalen
Society of lost Souls
#10 - 2012-10-25 20:22:48 UTC
Klown Walk wrote:
[Cyclone, New Setup 1]
Co-Processor II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Damage Control II

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Cap Booster 400
Experimental 10MN MicroWarpdrive I
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I

425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
'Malkuth' Rocket Launcher I, Caldari Navy Scourge Rocket
'Malkuth' Rocket Launcher I, Caldari Navy Scourge Rocket
'Malkuth' Rocket Launcher I, Caldari Navy Scourge Rocket

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I

Hammerhead II x3
Hobgoblin II x2

Needs a 1% cpu implant or you can swap the amplifier for a web.

Last I checked boost amp didn't seem affect the ASB boosters. has it been fixed? I was under the impression it was purposely excluded as it would bump the boost up to around 1200.
Lenny Snipes
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2012-10-25 20:52:01 UTC
Bugsy VanHalen wrote:
Klown Walk wrote:
[Cyclone, New Setup 1]
Co-Processor II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Damage Control II

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Cap Booster 400
Experimental 10MN MicroWarpdrive I
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I

425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
'Malkuth' Rocket Launcher I, Caldari Navy Scourge Rocket
'Malkuth' Rocket Launcher I, Caldari Navy Scourge Rocket
'Malkuth' Rocket Launcher I, Caldari Navy Scourge Rocket

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I

Hammerhead II x3
Hobgoblin II x2

Needs a 1% cpu implant or you can swap the amplifier for a web.

Last I checked boost amp didn't seem affect the ASB boosters. has it been fixed? I was under the impression it was purposely excluded as it would bump the boost up to around 1200.


Boost Amps work with ASB, its essentially the same as the native bonus on the Clone.